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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 1:34 pm 
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CARNAGE wrote:
is the hho suitable to use with lpg systems does any body know???


Yes definitely.
Any hydrocarbon based fuel including diesel & Lpg.

probably easier to get results with lpg because you can readily adjust mixture to optimise combustion.

 

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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:55 pm 
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maxnett wrote:

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Have you cracked the plugs out for a look to see how the combustion affects them, if at all? Do you need to adjust your plug type for better reliability?

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pulled a couple of plugs out the other day, & they were cleanest plugs i've ever pulled out of any vehicle. And very white looking - (maybe need to go a couple steps colder)
BTW these plugs have been in for almost 10,000 km.

 

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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 10:36 pm 
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garthr wrote:
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Garthr,
Have you cracked the plugs out for a look to see how the combustion affects them, if at all? Do you need to adjust your plug type for better reliability?

sincere regards,


pulled a couple of plugs out the other day, & they were cleanest plugs i've ever pulled out of any vehicle. And very white looking - (maybe need to go a couple steps colder)
BTW these plugs have been in for almost 10,000 km.


That is a pretty good sign that the HHO is burning well and the engine is healthy.

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Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 5:57 pm 
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just a quick update,

been checking my figures and average over last week,

km - 475.4
litres- 41.45
kpl - 11.47
mpg -32.62
original mpg - 27.5
% inc - 31.62%

have gone back to single cell injecting gas into snorkel
running at 3.5 - 4 amps
timing is set at 8 degrees btdc

reasons for this - haven't built any extra units yet -(need 2 the same i think to run them in series)
with timing set at 10 degrees was still getting some slight pinging on takeoff.
when connected to manifold vacuum bubbler was losing too much water into motor - very difficult to set amount of aux air because cell is not transparent.
hope this helps anyone who is in the middle of experimenting.

 

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Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 8:20 pm 
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today Oldmate marcus & I made a video of the assembly of my cell & posted on youtube, here is link:-

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98amiBsS1GI[/youtube]

 

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Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 9:23 pm 
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Hahahaha, you imbeded the vid garth, awsome. Nice vid , if i do say so myself, hehehe.

 

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Very informative and I learnt a few things, thanks garthr.
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Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 8:16 pm 
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Hi Garth
Love the video very well done .was watching thinking that you had cleaned your shed then i realized thats marcus's shed .lol
Maybe marcus could do the next video at your shed so we can all see what a mad inventors shed really looks like ,zero piont energy contraptions ,hho stuff , bike lifter thingy, pulled apart tv's ,photo copiers and best of all heaps of blown up bottles .
Yeh yeh thats what mates are for taking the p@##
Keep up the goood work and give it to the oil companies
Cheers Andre

 

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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:30 am 
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great work.
I am speaking to the Proffessors and mechanical engineers at Melbourne Unversity where I work. They are currently working on LPG injection. I asked them about HHO and they have been playing with it for 30 years. They say 3% is the optimumum boost. I will quiz them further and see what they have tried.

 

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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:04 pm 
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Rick's EF Fairmont Wagon wrote:
great work.
I am speaking to the Proffessors and mechanical engineers at Melbourne Unversity where I work. They are currently working on LPG injection. I asked them about HHO and they have been playing with it for 30 years. They say 3% is the optimumum boost. I will quiz them further and see what they have tried.


3%. - that is a lot of gas especially at highway speeds, - looks like overdoing the hho is the least of our worries even with several onboard electrolysers.

 

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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 7:09 pm 
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I will have to burn a cd of the instruction books to give them to look at. If we can get this researched on their dyno's we may get some serious development done for us all to benefit from.

 

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Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 8:01 pm 
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Rick's EF Fairmont Wagon wrote:
great work.
I am speaking to the Proffessors and mechanical engineers at Melbourne Unversity where I work. They are currently working on LPG injection. I asked them about HHO and they have been playing with it for 30 years. They say 3% is the optimumum boost. I will quiz them further and see what they have tried.


quick question, - are they definitely talking about HHO or are they using hydrogen alone?

 

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Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 7:46 pm 
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update.

made a slight modification to my cell yesterday, added a small oneway valve as an air bleed on side of cell to eliminate the problem of bubbler water being sucked back into cell every time it cools down. valve allows air into cell but not out, works perfectly.(valve is off an aquarium setup)

Thought about putting it in the outlet pipe between the cell & the bubbler but it is very small and i didn't want to restrict gas flow.

 

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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 3:02 am 
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Hi all,

once I get the rest of the mods I want done.. I'm going to get into this in a big way.. I work at a uni in WA so I may have some resources to point at it.

I think I will start at the other end of things to you and begin with two containers, both with float valves, the cell which needs to have water always above the plates, and the resovour which fills it when it lowers.. then the float in the resovour would cut the power when it gets too low.

That way you never have to worry about running dry..

could probably nick the float assemblies from motorbike carbies.. most modern ones are all plastic where it counts.

I'm very interested in finding out if plates or the spiral wire is the most effective producer of hho sp I know which way to go when the time comes to build the cell.

excilting to have a new project.. if it works in the falcon, I'm gonna have a go at making one for my wifes turbo diesel surf.
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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 7:51 am 
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That way you never have to worry about running dry..

could probably nick the float assemblies from motorbike carbies.. most modern ones are all plastic where it counts.

I'm very interested in finding out if plates or the spiral wire is the most effective producer of hho sp I know which way to go when the time comes to build the cell.

excilting to have a new project.. if it works in the falcon, I'm gonna have a go at making one for my wifes turbo diesel surf.


Frank,
good to hear someone is keen.

running dry is not really a big problem other than losing gas production, - current gradually stops flowing as the submerged electrode area decreases.
(that said, this is one advantage that plates have over wire wound cell.
as the water level drops from around the wire the part above the water really heats up, - enough to melt the plastic in my coffee jar experiment)

then again you will gain a much longer range without topping up water.


just my thoughts,

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