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any one out there with any knoledge of it?
any kits available? just curious as if technology has caught up yet? |
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dynowog wrote: any one out there with any knoledge of it?
any kits available? just curious as if technology has caught up yet? Vialle has it on the market (tested and worked well on a BA I6), but due to Australian Patent we won't see it for a while. http://www.lpgli.com/patents.html
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There was guy on ff whom had his xr6 turbo lpged up
Apparently no loss in performance either
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there was a magazine back a while ago wiht injection lpg on this xr6 turbo i think in WA and it actually made more power but due to the size of the lpg injectors the power was limilted. I'll try find the mag and post it up
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Nicko wrote: There was guy on ff whom had his xr6 turbo lpged up Apparently no loss in performance either "TURBOTAXI", hes on here too I'm pretty sure. MICKYYYY wrote: there was a magazine back a while ago wiht injection lpg on this xr6 turbo i think in WA and it actually made more power but due to the size of the lpg injectors the power was limilted. I'll try find the mag and post it up
Was in 'ZOOM', I read that one too.
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is injection where they tap into the manifold one for each cylinder rather than just into the manifold in one go or am i lost?
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yes multipoint injection
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my dads ba 3v v8 has had this for a couple of years then goes verry nice apparently a bit more power than juice and actually drives better
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He's talking about liquid injection, not vapour!!
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oh ok... hence my earlier qn. didnt think it was the same thing. there you go
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Walker wrote: He's talking about liquid injection, not vapour!!
thats correct liquid yeah just doing my r&d on the current state of it as its been years since i got serious about it!!! |
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Macca wrote: dynowog wrote: any one out there with any knoledge of it? any kits available? just curious as if technology has caught up yet? Vialle has it on the market (tested and worked well on a BA I6), but due to Australian Patent we won't see it for a while. http://www.lpgli.com/patents.html what exactly have they patented the design? why dont they do a different design surely cant be that hard bet its different to how we had it running!!! |
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Most of the difficulty is in countering the variations of energy density found from tank to tank of gas. Getting parts off the shelf to do this relatively easily is certainly possible, if expensive. keeping LPG as a liquid in the heat of the engine bay just requires very high pressure. SO you have to modify an LPG tank to accept a return line and a high pressure pump (or two) and then run very high pressure injectors, regulator etc.
http://www.mclarenelectronics.com/Products.asp?subtype=Injectors&type=Fuelling&id=66 yes mclaren  they have 30bar injectors, regulators etc.
Liquid injection is NOT hard to build...nor can it be patented if its using normal efi components....what IS patented is the technology to measure the energy density and automatically compensate injector pulse widths etc. They also use a patented system to supply LPG to normal injector rails (which I think is dangerous btw) but it seems to work for them so meh, good luck to them. |
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Delta wrote: Most of the difficulty is in countering the variations of energy density found from tank to tank of gas. Getting parts off the shelf to do this relatively easily is certainly possible, if expensive. keeping LPG as a liquid in the heat of the engine bay just requires very high pressure. SO you have to modify an LPG tank to accept a return line and a high pressure pump (or two) and then run very high pressure injectors, regulator etc.
http://www.mclarenelectronics.com/Products.asp?subtype=Injectors&type=Fuelling&id=66 yes mclaren they have 30bar injectors, regulators etc. Liquid injection is NOT hard to build...nor can it be patented if its using normal efi components....what IS patented is the technology to measure the energy density and automatically compensate injector pulse widths etc. They also use a patented system to supply LPG to normal injector rails (which I think is dangerous btw) but it seems to work for them so meh, good luck to them. ohh i have had it running before just never got around to producing it as lack of funds saw to that! just wanted to know if there were kits available! ohh and there are other fuel delivery designs that work! |
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There was a Red XE V8 Ghia fitted with a turbo (not at first) and LPG liquid injection, his car used to have a webpage about it, I am guessing a lot of things went wrong as he went backwards I think and used GRA mixer/s I think.
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