More likely to push a lot of installers out of the game, as down here in Vic they don't have to be mechanics to get their gas ticket, and I find there isn't many workshops that really know their s**t when it comes to LPG.
I think a lot of installers NEED to be pushed out of business as they thrived on the rebate. I did my sums when I got mine installed and compared the wholesale price with the price of the kit with install. Funny how it had the rebate price smacked ontop of it. The kit I had installed cost me $4500 installed but when I checked on the same kit from a wholesale distributor in Sydney(I asked as a trade price...norty me!) it cost $2250 without install labour costs.

Now to this I added the cost of labour at $120 an hour for eight hours and the total came to $960. Add it all up with the 10 per cent for GST to the installer and I got $3460!! Couple to this consumables which mechanics like to tack on to your bill of say $100 and you have $3560 all up with all said and done.

I was p****d with my insaller when I got the bill and questioned why this happens - he came back saying it was in the best interest of his business to get as much out of the scheme as he could and it was nothing personal. I would imagine if I had shopped about I would have got it cheaper; however, wanted the system here and now. Think of the WA locals who got it for free after the federal government rebate and then the WA government rebate. Yes I received my $2000 but the installer made a hefty profit of just under a grand.

Makes you think doesn't it...

Oddly enough, Im in the camp of "the kit is that much cheaper"

Tickford_6 - I take it that your good at what you do, but if I ever walked into your workshop and asked you an outright question, Im sure your answer would piss me off, and you would think I wasnt worth your time.

Yet Im one of the fordmodders. Im on this forum to get help and technical ideas, and there are people here who do offer that as long as you dont shaft them. But you - seem to almost always arc up. Its you that stands out every time.

The LPG Industry is a rip off. The facts (stated) was that the cost of conversion went up by the cost of the rebate. Thats undisputable. I got LPGi on a car for $2500 right before the rebate came out, and then $4500 the year after. Non-Injected conversions went straight up as well (but not as much). Ive had 2 very poor conversions, and 2 really good ones. The poor ones were by the shops who have the best reputations in their area.

Lucky for me, you cant tell me how much better than me you are, or how your workshop is so great and customers like me piss you off.

Sadly, I prefer to respect people and their opinions.

Nigel

Anyone else here noticed the hard hit on LPG prices? I'm starting to wonder if it is even worth while using any more. I am yet to use a full LPG tank to see just how many k's I'm getting but so far I'm leaning to not using it.

For those not in NSW, I'm not eve sure if it is all of NSW, but our price went from 59.9 to 79.9. Up a third! For a full tank, this is an extra $13. I know this may not seem a great deal.

But imagine it this way, average price of fuel now, lets just say $1.50, that's about what it is for me and I know it will give or take a bit for others. But imagined if over night that jumped to just to $2.00. That means for a 70L tank you were paying an extra $35 a tank. That is the same kind of jump.

Yesterday I put in $30 of LPG. It got me about 37 litres of LPG. With a little bit of town driving and the rest on the freeway and open road. By the time I got home, just shy of 190km's, I could feel the tank starting to suck its last few drops.

If I had of brought petrol at $1.50 (I had the chance to get it at $1.38 but for arguments sake lets keep it at $150) at about 12L/100, that $30 should have got me 20L and 166km's.

So if I had of got that $30 at $1.38 (22 litres) and got a more conservative fuel consumption of 10L/100, which is completely realistic with the majority of open road driving, that $30 would have got me 220km's for the money.

I know it's a little bit of give and take here and there. But the once upon a time savings of running LPG, and I've used LPG for a long time, have now diminished. My car use to be 1/2 to 2/3's the cost of running on LPG compared to petrol. Now its about the same. BUT! LPG has its cons too, I can't carry a spare wheel, the weight of the LPG tank behind the rear wheels flogs out my tyres very quickly and I can't get LPG conveniently as we don't have it in town and I have to go out of my way to get it.
PLUS, for every tank to 2nd tank of LPG, you use $5-$10 of petrol as well. Depending on how many start stops etc.

Right at this moment, my wife's 5.4 G220 has become the cheaper car to run then my vapour injected LPG Territory. The reason I've been doing the maths is I had planned to put the same LPG system on the G220, but is it even worth it? Are any other LPG users thinking the same?

For those not in NSW, I'm not eve sure if it is all of NSW, but our price went from 59.9 to 79.9. Up a third! For a full tank, this is an extra $13. I know this may not seem a great deal.

More likely to push a lot of installers out of the game, as down here in Vic they don't have to be mechanics to get their gas ticket, and I find there isn't many workshops that really know their s**t when it comes to LPG.
Think of the WA locals who got it for free after the federal government rebate and then the WA government rebate. Yes I received my $2000 but the installer made a hefty profit of just under a grand.