In SA, private car parks such as Westfields have always been a public road in the eyes of the law, that's why the police can shut them down and defect all the cars in there when a cruise stops for a break or book you for any other road traffic infringment.
To think we just got rid of the d***head AG Michael Atkinson who didn't like R rated video games and brought in the anti freedom of association laws last term. Our new AG, Mr Rau is a middle aged lawyer who thinks that he can bring in laws which further remove our freedoms, salami style, slice by slice and pretend to be tough on everything. We are still waiting for just one bikie fortress to be knocked down as Fuhrer Mike promised back in 2002, but bikies have QC's to fight the laws, ordinary motorists don't.

Having moved away from SA in the last 12 months, Id have to say that this is typical of Mike Rann and the rest of his bunch of do nothing f**k wits. In reality all it is intended to do is create another revenue stream for the state coffers. Thats all those bastards are about. Spend money on s**t and then tax or in this case fine the public to get the money back. They should have been voted out this year but the crow eaters f**k it up. ahhh well. Its a shame that QLD is no better.

the road safety act (FEDERAL) covers all publicly accessible places and roads under the road safety act (i think they only become truly private if the general public has a reason to be there)

so all supermarket car parks, university roads and car parks are covered.

i found out most of this when looking for any reason to get out of my parking fine from deakin uni - unfortunately i didnt find a reason (but lucky for me they let me off anyway) the worrying part is the grey areas in what is covered and what isnt (for example are carparks at workplaces covered)

I think the topic was about the penal colony arm of the law dictating global governance on your private property and freedom.
It means you can not drive in your own specially made paddock driving track in ways that appears to be hooning.

the Adelaide gov's very own statistics show that 10 out 20 drivers in the state dies every month because they hoon on their own property... that's way they're imposing stricter laws.

its all inter related, and someone did brind up the topic of private property that is publicly used.

of course its just government B.S - their next press release will say that there was an X % decrease in hoon related fatalities (just like if the declared bees hoons then exterminated all bees).

but unfortunately these days the vast majority of people are stupid and because we live in a democracy the majority choose the governance.

And there isnt a damn thing we can do about it.

Ps slick, what ever happened to the copenhagen summit being where they were going to announce the NWO world government????

What I was referring on my previous post was the attempts of the law to dictate global governance on to your property was about them attempting to dictate your "space". the space that surrounds you, that includes the very air you breathe, the perimeter fence around the boundary of your property.

As for the NWO? I don't know but one of the many key ingredients in world totalitarian is that the IPCC forth assessment report on climate change has done a belly-flop with the outstanding scientific uncertainties on radiative forcing on climate. dictating policies can't be archived if the science is punked. it's a set back but they'll find ways to prove to you that hooning and ripping up the lawn in your very own property is doing damage to the environment

Everything we do is doing damage to the environment in one way or another - the problem is population and its growth all countries (except china) are aiming for considerable population increases, and longer lifetimes where we should be aiming for a worldwide population decrease (through limited breeding) and although its sounds harsh a limit to the age we live to, maybe MORE hooning and more risky behaviour is in order to thin out the population?


ive given up on thinking about how things could be made better, best i can hope for is a collapse of society due to war,natural disaster or a global financial meltdown (money is one the last one greed seems to be the strongest motivator nowadays) although things would be much harder and not as nice i think id be happier living under my own rules rather than ones enforced upon me by a bunch of douchebags only out to increase their own authority

But don't you see, by conditioning the next generation by design, they will grow up excepting the laws as per normal by removing key points in rebellious behaviour. the idea is to chip away the small windows in society that'll hinder the conditioning for absolute obedience. a broken and obedient future society is easy to control and muster like sheeps to the slaughter house, or in theory easy to sway to end their own lives after completing his service as a working bee for the corporate elites of the world.



By allowing the collapse of society, it better the odds for Marshall law police state control. by collapsing the global financial market, it triggers a collapse in society which makes way for an ideal police state control scenario. it doesn't matter to the corporate elites if the world turns to s**t because they'll fund the policing forces. if all goes to plan, people will starve to death in poorer nations and in the developed countries will we start eating each other just to survive.

When pushed too far, society pushes back. It's present throughout history. The tighter the stranglehold on the populous, the stronger the repercussions for the governing body.

It has happened with any civilized society in the past. Romans, Athenians, The Huns, Persians all had a mass rebellion by the people. A Government, no matter how naive and ignorant they are into believing they have reputable power and control, will eventually crumble.

So so true and let it be. as long as the future generation don't fall under the absolute obedience design mechanism.

Instinct and human nature cannot be bred out!

ummm infact it can be bred out of us by simply removing those with undesirable traits from the poulation (ie to prison)

slick, im not talking a little collapse of society im talking a BIG one, you cant have a police state if you have no economy or money to pay a police force.

Part of the reason State Government can do this is because the politicians wont allow Australians to Have a "Bill of Rights", you have constitutional Rights but the Politicians say this is more than adequate. What they mean is "we have lots of power over Australians"

If the State govermnent makes a blanket rule to cover Private property and access without a permit by police, then this would cover most situations , even car parks.

Politicians are using police like "Stormtroopers" to sort out s**t, but by doing blanket Defect Operations, there was one in August/ September that wasnt announced in the media.

Who voted this mob back in, Not me...

Time to arm yourselves with rocks, sticks and steak knives, then march in protest on the lawns of the state parliament and shout- No more laws, we are not convicts... No more laws, we are not convicts!

Faark!!
If I wanna put 2 big twins up my driveway I effin well will!

Back in Alice, we were at a party in the local industrial area, this bloke owned his shed and block on the street, opposite that was a strip of park about 20 meters wide then on the other side was a road past a residential area.

Anyhow we are having fun, untill some dood did a burnout up the road on the resedential side, give it 20 mins and cop were patrolling the street, couldn't find the offender but spotted the partay on our side, so they dove around and started checking the cars out the front for "evidence of burnouts", it was a joke, feeling hoods "ooh this ones warm", scraping gaurds for bits of rubber and feeling tyre surfaces. the p****d people started to annoy and play around so they got antsy and started getting technical with the owner of the property cos he had a blue Nissan too same as the report. (his car was just inside the gate too)

Next thing he's cutting SICK! They try getting clever saying they can get the caller to ID the car, and they can take it off him, but of course if he admits it they will go easier on him (man I hate that line),
so he says somthin like "your not arresting me so I can go if I want, also you are here on my property for an incident on another street, you've had no complaints for this place so leave now.

They realise he's right and try to have the last word, so suddenly he yells RIGHT! he jumps in his car, on the spot starts it, and loads up the BIGGEST standstill right there! Engines pinging, they tryin to tell him to stop and start jumping all over the place 40 people who have gathered around start yellin, phones come out for a video start chanting "cops can leave"

Old mate smokes it for at least 3 minits as the cops call backup and look at each other what to do that they legally can, he then stops, kills the car and hops out. Says HOW WAS THAT! On PRIVATE PROPERTY TOO!
it was almost a riot people cheering and gettin excited but no one did get criminally silly,
then a Sargent rocks up as the smoke is still clearing,
sorts out the other 2 coppers and they all leave with a stern warning that there will be zero tolerance of there is any reports.

It was hilarious! The whole thing was like watching a comedy sketch.

All up, these cops were out on legend patrol, and got shut down.

Yes the guvmints are fernargened and have no real touch with the community except to tell us how to live.

And if I wanna do somthing inside my fence line then that's my freaking business and I'll do it at 3 AM if i want to....as long as I know I won't disturb my neighbors.

EDIT, I just read the article, and it says nothing about hooning on private property being illegal, just that they won't need a warrant to enter private property to get to a offending vehicle...after the fact.