I'll just buy 2nd cars forever.

thats what i thought when i herd it was going to have a snail hangin off it, it might be a great success as a taxi being cheaper to run but no different to the 6 pot falcons,
doesnt have much less power considering the down sizing of the motor , you can still get the povo pack or the better models

How many time do we need to go over this topic.

Last time it was bought up was when Ford Pulled a production ecoboost 6cyl from the assemble line and put it in a F150 Baja race truck and then finnished the race in 38hours.



the 4cyl ecoboost engine is built with the same technology. Highly strung yeah, built to deal with it, yes. It's a shame all the one eyed bogans won't go near it. If this car sells well it will be part of the reason ford continue to build the falcon range. If it doesn't we will be that next step closer to no falcon at all.

So what's worse. A 4cyl falcon that is faster and cheaper to run then the egas has been up untill now. OR no falcon at all?

but we are still talking about a 2 litre engine powering a HEAVY car. It may produced 150+ kw turbo'ed, but its still trying to pull a Falcon along. I would think they would need atleast a 2.5 to justify changing to a 4 for starters, but Ford dont want to spend too much money so they have decided to pull a donk out of a hot hatch sized car and expect it to perform in a car thats greatly heavier. I would have rathered a 3.0 tdi, as soon as you say diesel now days your bound to sell them in droves. My boss has a vw transporter tdi, I think thats around the 3L mark and it flys and is quite good on the juice if you drive it calmly. A 2L turbo mondeo motor in a Falcon to me is a bandaid on open heart surgery

You just proved my point - you aren't the market. The majority of the population that doesn't care about slamming people from the lights as long as they are NOT in an e series falcon is who will buy this car. I sure as hell won't be buying a 4 cylinder falcon, but I would be naive to think because I personally don't want one it isn't a smart move by Ford.

2012 will be a make or break year I think for Ford Australia. They really need to get their marketing boys a swift kick in the knads and get the word out. All I hear are Commodore adds here in SA and there $9,500 included options yada yada yada.... Do we here anything about the new Egas Falcon.. nope zilch I wouldnt even know about it if it wasnt for here...

I agree if the 4cyl has marginal power differance then people will buy it and be thankful at rego time too (cheaper to rego a 4 cylinder), they want power and still be cheap to run there is the LPi Egas. A diesel option would have been pretty good also (how hard to fit one from a Territory?) There are limits as to what Ford Aus can do as we are a very limited market.

I couldnt agree more with you AU99. Fords marketing has been up s**t creek for years . It's as clear as glass that Ford are not looking to be making cars in Australia in the future. All their advertising is mostly pushing their imports, Fiesta, Focus, Mondeo and Ranger . The only Australian vehicle they push is the DIESEL Territory, which used an imported engine . If they were really interested in getting Falcon sales, they should be pushing the Gas Falcon and PUSHING heavily the running costs and savings . Running a full sized "BIG CAR" for the fuel costs of the Corrola, or small cars . Do they push the 6 Cylinder motor as AUSTRALIAN Designed and Built? "NO" because that might cause people to suport the Falcon and Australian made . Ford are just retarded . I mean they dropped the Wagon and Factory Taxi packs, which were huge in fleet sales and complain about dropping sales and how people are looking for smaller cars, what s**t. I mean hell if the LPI gas engine develops more power than the petrol motor, why dont they invest in doing an LPI V8 and get the XR8 up again, or a gas Territory instead of an imported power train . Ford current position is all of their own making, it's not our fault.

Rant sort of over, seething rage slowly retreating.

In my opinion Ford marketing went down hill after the XC Coupe....Then it plummeted even further when they dropped the V8. It did rise a bit when the V8 made it's long overdue comeback but as of late Ford marketing has taken a dramatic dive once again.

I might see if I can take the 4 cylinder for a drive and see how it goes.

By the way 79raven...it may be a 4 cylinder, but if it can produce the same power/torque as an AU 6 cylinder, I dare say it can haul the weight of the car. Engines these days are built more accurately than before and so it is safe to say that they won't be under too much stress when you push the big boat around...even at higher RPMs.

I wonder how well/crap it will tow though

Lol at comparing an E-series with an FG **clap clap for the handicapped**
I think I'd rather the 4-Cyl Turbo FG over an old EF Fairmont, you seem to think
that these are going to be a slug - somehow I think not...
0-100 in just over 7sec... whats an EF do it in?

and for some reason I think these are more aimed at the fleet buyer personally - not some bloke
who wants to justify keeping his grubby ole falcon.
You do know a lot of people buy new cars out right too yeh?



I'd imagine that if you're going to be towing you'll end up buying the 6cyl model

It may be a good thing, it might get alot of people to start buying falcons again. I would imagine you could get some decent power out of them as well. Nothing like the xr6t, but still decent power.

last month camry and mazda 3 were the best sellers...commodore was 4th and falcon wasnt even in top 8.

As for towing, you are always going to get morons with no idea who will try towing stupid amounts; in the end anyone who is buying a car for it's towing abilities won't be looking at the 4 cyl.

id like to know what the fuel economy would be like?
it may produce a 7 sec 0-100 car but how much juice does it burn in the process?

i dont think the ecoboost engine is the answer to fords problems, but who knows it could at least be a step in the right direction

[quote="skidder"]last month camry and mazda 3 were the best sellers...commodore was 4th and falcon wasnt even in top 8.quote]
Just the point, Holden or aussie Ford are never going to be the top now days, the asians have it all over us, just like the Skyline at Bathurst. Now Holden have a 3.5........6. If ford stay with the 6 and retire the straight 6 for something new, be it dist. or unleaded or gas and can capture the no. 4 spot off holden, then problem solved. 4th aint a bad place to be.
To the bloke who said that some people buy new cars outright, if you have that kind of cash, why the f**k are you buying a falcon?
How many new car buyers out there buy them outright compared to refinancing there home loans or going other forms of credit? Also you may think an Ef doing an fg is a no chance,then tell me how many blokes on here have spent less than half the price of a stock fg on an e series and are pulling excellent numbers. Hell the Tj Fagna I had that was stock apart from mags and a k&n air fliter use to flog stock Falcons, and that was worth $2500

stock falcons as in e series, a series or b series? cause tj magnas aren't excessively powerful as i regularly drive one with 3 into 1 extractors running parrallel to the rear axle then they merge into one 2.5" pipe, high flow cat, k&N panel filter, bigger injectors and a tune, even with this thing being manual it would not beat a falcon six overall maybe a takeoff.

i test drove a this year models toyota hilux SR5 the other day with a 4 cylinder turbo diesel the other day, this thing weighs a lot more then a falcon and i was impressed with it, so i will leave my 2 cents on the 4 cylinder falcon debate when i test drive it......