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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 5:10 pm 
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dam nice turbo

 

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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:00 am 
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will that clear the shock tower?
mine goes pretty damn close.

 

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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:17 pm 
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kudos for effort mate, more rewarding doing it yourself...

couple things tho, your manifold seems kinda like a `custom log` manifold with those 90deg bends and no tuned length, might want to rethink it when you need more power... it will hurt your volumetric efficiency for sure...

the other thing is the turbo itself... do you have a compressor map for that thing you bought and have you plotted your engine on it? takes alot of the guess work out which you seem to be doing and you will get a much better idea of where your boost threshold will be and how its going to drive etc... but i guess its too late now, you need to do this before you buy your turbo... id do it asap, coz since you havent used it yet, you could return it its too far off the map...
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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 10:18 pm 
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will that clear the shock tower?
mine goes pretty damn close.

Yes it will clear... I hope :D Thats why the turbo is angled up a little bit , I'v also allowed for clearence from the bonnet. I did a fair bit of measuring to make sure.

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kudos for effort mate, more rewarding doing it yourself...

couple things tho, your manifold seems kinda like a `custom log` manifold with those 90deg bends and no tuned length, might want to rethink it when you need more power... it will hurt your volumetric efficiency for sure...

the other thing is the turbo itself... do you have a compressor map for that thing you bought and have you plotted your engine on it? takes alot of the guess work out which you seem to be doing and you will get a much better idea of where your boost threshold will be and how its going to drive etc... but i guess its too late now, you need to do this before you buy your turbo... id do it asap, coz since you havent used it yet, you could return it its too far off the map...


Yeah with the manifold I'll keep it for a while, and then when i decide to build up an engine made for boost (300 - 350 rwkw) I'll buy a propper tuned length one as i dont have the skills to make one of them, but this could be 3 yerars down the track :)
So at the moment the manifold will do for my current goals.

As for the turbo size I'm not that concerned, as i spent a long time discusing it with my supplier, and he said if it choked, or was to big we'll swap the turbine housing for a bigger or smaller one. But this turbo is pretty close to the GT53/40r....

 

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Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 9:23 am 
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im a little confused, if your going by the current garrett nomenclature then your saying you have a t53 size turbine housing? yours is called a t60, whats the turbine wheel inducer and exducer size? furthermore, your running a 1.0 A/R on this presumably very large housing? to me, it sounds like its gonna take ages to spool up dude :?:

i may have to totally wrong idea here, but i think you may find that if you only want 8.5psi and 220rwkw, that thing will be VERY laggy...

i dont see how you can aim for 220rwkw with the option of going for 350+ all with the same turbo esp if you want to drive it around for 3 years on low boost before you go all out, itll drive you nuts...
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Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 9:09 pm 
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i think the turbo should be ok, but i wouldn't expect full boost before 3000. probably around 3200

 

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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 1:00 am 
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its lookin good mate, wish i had the knowlegde to make all that s**t.....

 

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Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:40 pm 
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OK i finally got around to doing more work on the manifold today... I "should" finish it nexd weekend, all i have to do is finish welding around the runners on the header plate.

The pics arent very good coz i only had my phone camera on me...

 

 

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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:09 pm 
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good to see another update at last! Not that i can really talk with my boosted project haha...

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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 5:57 pm 
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good on you for doing it all yourself heres a tip if you want to do another manifold .steam tube is wicked and lasts an age or more longer than exhaust tube,have a friend with a 355 stroker vn commo i know horrible holden ,but the guy that did the manifold swears by the stuff its rated for higher temps which as we all know pyro temps are a must with turbo cars .this car is turboed as well and is as scary as all hell with a little bit of foot. i look forward to seeing how this all pans out for you . keep up the good work!!!!! :D

 

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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:05 pm 
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good on you for doing it all yourself heres a tip if you want to do another manifold .steam tube is wicked and lasts an age or more longer than exhaust tube,have a friend with a 355 stroker vn commo i know horrible holden ,but the guy that did the manifold swears by the stuff its rated for higher temps which as we all know pyro temps are a must with turbo cars .this car is turboed as well and is as scary as all hell with a little bit of foot. i look forward to seeing how this all pans out for you . keep up the good work!!!!! :D


I am using steam tube, the stuff is 3.5 - 4mm thick :D

 

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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:17 pm 
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blackxr, you seem to know a lot about steam pipe, yet cant tell when you are looking at it...

 

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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:19 pm 
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steampipe is all well and good, but it aint worth s**t if you dont get the f**k thing done already stefan!
speed it up sunshine :P

 

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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:30 pm 
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steampipe is all well and good, but it aint worth s**t if you dont get the f**k thing done already stefan!
speed it up sunshine :P

the turbo stuff wont be going on till near the end of the year :)
its got something to do with me getting off my P's in December... :cry:

 

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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 4:53 pm 
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you have my apologies for not reading properly and wat i saw on the pics steel and steamtube i wouldnt know the diff in a picture.still putting together yourself keep up the good work :D

 

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