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i strongly suggest you invest in an MSD DIS4 or the correct crane ignition so you can run a nitrous retard.
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tickford_6 wrote: i strongly suggest you invest in an MSD DIS4 or the correct crane ignition so you can run a nitrous retard.
Whats involved in fitting one of these? and what are they usally worth? I was hoping to have her already for wed nyt, thats all. What would happen if i dont retard it?
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best case nothing, you'll have a blast.
worst case, you'll be back here crying that you need a new engine.
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SIM wrote: tickford_6 wrote: i strongly suggest you invest in an MSD DIS4 or the correct crane ignition so you can run a nitrous retard. Whats involved in fitting one of these? and what are they usally worth? I was hoping to have her already for wed nyt, thats all. What would happen if i dont retard it? fitting is easy. find some where to mount it. away from direct heat. cut and join the 4 wires from the coil pack, run a constant power and earth. connect the step retard to you TB switch for the nitrous. the switched power for the MSD unti is taken from the power to the coil. i recomend playing it safe if you're not cashed up. and running an extra 1 or 2 degrees retard then what is recomended with the kit. if it says no retard needed run 1 or 2 degrees and so on. better to be safe then sorry cost around $750 retail from rocket or VPW. it was worth .3 of second on my EFxr6 with the only other mods being extractors 2.5 inch system and ss inductions intake. if you can't get one by wed run a small shot that dosn't need any retard, or like datamine said you may be back here asking for advice on a rebuild |
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my mate that ran 110hp on his ef didnt alter the timing, he had extractors and a pod, otherwise std
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ebs_4l wrote: my mate that ran 110hp on his ef didnt alter the timing, he had extractors and a pod, otherwise std
thats nice. good on ya mate |
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tickford_6 wrote: SIM wrote: tickford_6 wrote: i strongly suggest you invest in an MSD DIS4 or the correct crane ignition so you can run a nitrous retard. Whats involved in fitting one of these? and what are they usally worth? I was hoping to have her already for wed nyt, thats all. What would happen if i dont retard it? fitting is easy. find some where to mount it. away from direct heat. cut and join the 4 wires from the coil pack, run a constant power and earth. connect the step retard to you TB switch for the nitrous. the switched power for the MSD unti is taken from the power to the coil. i recomend playing it safe if you're not cashed up. and running an extra 1 or 2 degrees retard then what is recomended with the kit. if it says no retard needed run 1 or 2 degrees and so on. better to be safe then sorry cost around $750 retail from rocket or VPW. it was worth .3 of second on my EFxr6 with the only other mods being extractors 2.5 inch system and ss inductions intake. if you can't get one by wed run a small shot that dosn't need any retard, or like datamine said you may be back here asking for advice on a rebuild haha man just had a rebuild i dont wan another one.. I'm gonna have a read of the advanced tuning section in my instruction manual and see what it says in there. but yeah if i cant get one by end of tomorrow ill prolly just use the smallest shot at only 35 hp approx increase
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thats a very wise choice.
i know the $750 sounds like alot, but i will be money very well spent |
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Question... wont the EF I6 knock sensors retard the timing auto?
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it can only do so much. and for the knock sensor and ecu to do that knock has to happen. with nitrous involved there is a chance the know will be quite servere, in all honesty it up to you what you do.
just remember nitrous is not a toy, it generates alot of heat and pressure in the chambers, and if not treated with respect things can go very wrong. |
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tickford_6 wrote: thats nice. good on ya mate
before you go getting smart a**, have you actually got experience with NOS on an ef 6????? im posting what i know, from experience involving the exact same model, engine, nos shot as this thread is aimed at.... he may find that very usefiul information, whether you agree from a rule of thumb perspective or not.
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hmmm... Well fuel is all hooked up now all thats left is the throttle swithch and to go over all fittings.
Im going to try a 35 shot and decide from there
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get in and hold it flat
Gas is great had it on my AU3 xr8 with head work cam, autronic smc , loved it had a ZEX 125 shot and it never missed a beat. didn't retard the timing at all Just uped the fuel. ( dont flame me i know its a v8 and not a six just saying thats all) |
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haha thanks man
By the way everyone... IT WORKS!! f**k NOS IS THE BEST!. Thats only on a 35 shot too 
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I have a xr6 ecu as well guys, if that helps with the base timing i dont know
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