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as i said it was just a thought, you are correct in the potential for more power with less spend is right in the xr6t's, i was just thinking of the initial 6500 spend you have to do first, by all means go ahead and do it if its the way you want to go, they are a great engine and plenty of potential.
there are guys getting 250rwkw on the std injectors with exhaust and intercooler and tune, you would be surprised by how fast that would make an EL, definetly a giant killer, lol. best of luck with your project, hope it happens for you, and keep us informed. cheers, Rob
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{USERNAME} wrote: {USERNAME} wrote: So naming the car, Driver and times make me a liar and oxygen thief hey? Sinan (HiBoost) has run a 9.6@143mph in an EL Falcon built by Rajab Racing. This time was run using an EL GLi 3.08:1 diff with a Mini-Spool. Also, this was run at Heathcoate Raceway. The axles used were, AFAIK, factory EL GLi axles. Facts good enough to prove you wrong? that diff would have some tricks in it, Rajab haven't played with borgys in VLs for f**k years not to learn a trick or too. No doubt about that Jared, but the point was, 104ord was adamant that the Borgy is a spagetti diff.
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Not sure about an E series M78 being stronger than a B series M86 though.
The B series M78 can't be too bad because i'm at around 270rwkw and it's still going.I have to fix the slipper once a year or so though.
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{USERNAME} wrote: Not sure about an E series M78 being stronger than a B series M86 though. The B series M78 can't be too bad because i'm at around 270rwkw and it's still going.I have to fix the slipper once a year or so though. E-Series is NOT M78. M78 is Dana, BW78 in E-Series. 4 Pinion = stronger than B-Series 2 Pinion. Also, IRS is different to Live axle in strength.
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i might have just got a job so that stuff bout getting the engine next year might change to giv me 3 months n il have her in, also if i get this job il be working at a automotive spraypainter and panal beater so il be able to do some custom paint work fair cheap
just before i get the engine tho im getting two 15inch subs and a single 12inch lol love my bass what u guys think a fg xr6t engine would cost?
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{USERNAME} wrote: {USERNAME} wrote: Not sure about an E series M78 being stronger than a B series M86 though. The B series M78 can't be too bad because i'm at around 270rwkw and it's still going.I have to fix the slipper once a year or so though. E-Series is NOT M78. M78 is Dana, BW78 in E-Series. 4 Pinion = stronger than B-Series 2 Pinion. Also, IRS is different to Live axle in strength. Ford went back to a 2 pinion diff? 
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{USERNAME} wrote: {USERNAME} wrote: {USERNAME} wrote: Not sure about an E series M78 being stronger than a B series M86 though. The B series M78 can't be too bad because i'm at around 270rwkw and it's still going.I have to fix the slipper once a year or so though. E-Series is NOT M78. M78 is Dana, BW78 in E-Series. 4 Pinion = stronger than B-Series 2 Pinion. Also, IRS is different to Live axle in strength. Ford went back to a 2 pinion diff? Yep, for some stupid reason they did! Although M78 gears are the ssame as BW78 IIRC. I'll be testing if a 4 Pinion BW78 centre fits an M78 housing in the next few weeks!
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{USERNAME} wrote: i might have just got a job so that stuff bout getting the engine next year might change to giv me 3 months n il have her in, also if i get this job il be working at a automotive spraypainter and panal beater so il be able to do some custom paint work fair cheap just before i get the engine tho im getting two 15inch subs and a single 12inch lol love my bass what u guys think a fg xr6t engine would cost? if anything go 2 12's and 1 15 the 15s arent as responsive as 12's....just my opinion |
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ive built my ea turbo up to handle 20 psi plus its getting tuned tomorrow want do u think i will tell my tuner to set boost at 15 18psi 0r more i dont think so, remeber this engine made 220 rwkw plus on 9 psi with very poor turbo and manifold
i will pull the pin at 260 to 280 rwkw an ea only weights about 1450kg i dont wont to kill my self or my engine even tuff engines cant cope with big boost all the time like the other guy said respect the power !!!!!! cheers psi taxi |
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{USERNAME} wrote: ive built my ea turbo up to handle 20 psi plus its getting tuned tomorrow want do u think i will tell my tuner to set boost at 15 18psi 0r more i dont think so, remeber this engine made 220 rwkw plus on 9 psi with very poor turbo and manifold i will pull the pin at 260 to 280 rwkw an ea only weights about 1450kg i dont wont to kill my self or my engine even tuff engines cant cope with big boost all the time like the other guy said respect the power !!!!!! cheers psi taxi giving up at 12-13psi hey? I know of an ED with a 6boost manifold + T04Z at 15psi that made 317rwkw, on a STOCK ED XR6 motor
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{USERNAME} wrote: {USERNAME} wrote: {USERNAME} wrote: {USERNAME} wrote: Not sure about an E series M78 being stronger than a B series M86 though. The B series M78 can't be too bad because i'm at around 270rwkw and it's still going.I have to fix the slipper once a year or so though. E-Series is NOT M78. M78 is Dana, BW78 in E-Series. 4 Pinion = stronger than B-Series 2 Pinion. Also, IRS is different to Live axle in strength. Ford went back to a 2 pinion diff? Yep, for some stupid reason they did! Although M78 gears are the ssame as BW78 IIRC. I'll be testing if a 4 Pinion BW78 centre fits an M78 housing in the next few weeks! they do, it's the same centre, don't use a live axle one in an IRS diff but. it will fit, but you'll lose a driveshaft one day.... 
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{USERNAME} wrote: {USERNAME} wrote: {USERNAME} wrote: {USERNAME} wrote: {USERNAME} wrote: Not sure about an E series M78 being stronger than a B series M86 though. The B series M78 can't be too bad because i'm at around 270rwkw and it's still going.I have to fix the slipper once a year or so though. E-Series is NOT M78. M78 is Dana, BW78 in E-Series. 4 Pinion = stronger than B-Series 2 Pinion. Also, IRS is different to Live axle in strength. Ford went back to a 2 pinion diff? Yep, for some stupid reason they did! Although M78 gears are the ssame as BW78 IIRC. I'll be testing if a 4 Pinion BW78 centre fits an M78 housing in the next few weeks! they do, it's the same centre, don't use a live axle one in an IRS diff but. it will fit, but you'll lose a driveshaft one day.... I'm not that stupid Jared, Using an AU IRS LSD hemisphere in a BA XT
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They're the same centres no matter what they are called,so an early Dana 78 type is still not as strong as the M86 type no way.
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{USERNAME} wrote: They're the same centres no matter what they are called,so an early Dana 78 type is still not as strong as the M86 type no way. nah definately not, i have a feeling the m86 use different gears and they are also 31 spline?
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The m86 gears are bigger, i think they're 8 3/4inch in the old money.
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