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ALS008
 Post subject: Supercharging EB 5.0
Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 12:55 pm 
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Im looking at doing some power upgrades to my EB 5.0

Atmo it is 100% stock has only 189000kms.

I want to get the best bang for buck i can. So at first i was thinking Upgrade that heads (gt40p's), full exhaust, and upgrade intake (explorer). With a tune i think around 160-180rwkw is manageable.

Then i seen a vid on youtube of a green supercharged ED, and the whine this thing was making almost made me shoot a load. It was really angry sounding.

So what power could i expect if i was to leave the engine all stock and just bolt the charger and give it a tune. I fugure since the air will now be forced into the engine, the flow of the head wont matter as much???

Would the stock E7 and HO manifold cope with the supercharger?? Is the question i ask??
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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 1:43 pm 
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Next question,

What can anyone tell me about the Raptor supercharged setup??
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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 1:53 pm 
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This is the car, and its also an EB:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=DKExsCPwsr4&feature=user

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Kv_yu-9jMAM&feature=user
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 Post subject: Re: Supercharging EB 5.0
Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 2:06 pm 
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ALS008 wrote:
Would the stock E7 and HO manifold cope with the supercharger?? Is the question i ask??

Yup.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=2XN2lX_YQkw
http://youtube.com/watch?v=X6Ro-piLCfQ

That EL XR8 has stock series 1 motor, so HO manifold and E7 heads.
Vortech V1 S-Trim, wolf 3d v4, ebay cooler with s**t 2.5" piping.
Was running about 4psi at the manifold in those videos.
Now up around 7-8 making about 240rwkw.

 

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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 5:09 pm 
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Between 220-240 rwkw is about the limits of the stock cam and E7 heads.

Im running E7's and stock cam and rockers and im just about on the limit of them, power starts tapering off at 4800, even though it has an extra PSI at 5500.

I have seen a AU with a blower cam and vortech running over 400rwhp, I'd be looking to swap over the heads and rocker gear.

I made 228 rwkw with my set up running around 8.5 psi, gotta get it back to the dyno soon to check AFR's as it wasnt getting WOT completely.

The raptors seem to be pretty reliable so far though there is nothing off the shelf for the 5.0L so if your good with tools, you should be able to save a bit of dough.

 

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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 5:16 pm 
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ALS008 wrote:
This is the car, and its also an EB:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=DKExsCPwsr4&feature=user

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Kv_yu-9jMAM&feature=user


Thats RAPTOR_XR8 's setup, he has a build thread and he seems pretty happy with it.

http://boost.fordmods.com/forums/viewto ... ptor%20xr8

 

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Now N/A (permanent Lag) - AFR 165's, Comp XE270 cam, 1.6 RR - 269 rwhp 14.1 @ 102mph.
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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 7:50 pm 
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when my 5liter was a standard(fully standard) set up with the blower (vortec)runing with xr6 turbo injectors i was pulling 260rwkw

 

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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 10:09 pm 
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260rwkw is a massive amount!

What sort of boost was that running?? Manual?

 

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Now N/A (permanent Lag) - AFR 165's, Comp XE270 cam, 1.6 RR - 269 rwhp 14.1 @ 102mph.
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Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 12:09 am 
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Can you buy a kit for the EB windsor, or can you only buy the compressor and do the rest yourself.
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Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 12:28 am 
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Not with the raptor yet. You'd have to buy the compressor and do up the rest.


http://www.capa.com.au/kits_ford_au_v8.htm

At nearly 8 grand for a kit for the vortech and over 6 grand for the Powerdyne, the raptor blower is only 2500. Add a few weekends and maybe a grands worth in materials for piping and a few parts, another grand for a decent tune and you should have a pretty tidy power gain for under 5 grand.

 

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'95 EF XR8 auto, Advance headers, 3" exhaust, Cobra manifold, BBK 75mm throttle body , 80MM Marauder MAF, Vortech V2 T Trim , 307 rwhp, 405 ft/lb 13.2 @ 105 MPH

Now N/A (permanent Lag) - AFR 165's, Comp XE270 cam, 1.6 RR - 269 rwhp 14.1 @ 102mph.
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ALS008
Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 12:54 am 
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So is that what these pumps cost, $2500.

Its not a bad price.
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Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 1:04 am 
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http://www.raptorsc.com.au/products.php

The Raptor R looks good if you are building up a toughish motor.

http://www.capa.com.au/prices_vortech.htm

A V2 SQ is $2941 as well, has a lot more in it boost wise, Some of em are sealed too so no mucking around with oil lines.

 

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'95 EF XR8 auto, Advance headers, 3" exhaust, Cobra manifold, BBK 75mm throttle body , 80MM Marauder MAF, Vortech V2 T Trim , 307 rwhp, 405 ft/lb 13.2 @ 105 MPH

Now N/A (permanent Lag) - AFR 165's, Comp XE270 cam, 1.6 RR - 269 rwhp 14.1 @ 102mph.
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Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 1:36 pm 
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schnoods wrote:
260rwkw is a massive amount!

What sort of boost was that running?? Manual?


that was running with about 8psi boost and a standard T5 manual

 

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My EF XR8 just has a blower, extracors & exhaust. I made 297rwhp, and pulled a 13.5 quarter mile.

Here is a vid of it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQobVruRgmU

 

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I think 260RWKW on that set up is a bit optimistic.

 

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