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EFFalcon wrote: Has anyone got details on power gains before/after intercooler when running a powerdyne. obviously you're limited in terms of boost on a powerdyne so i'm keen to see what kind benefits they give. The only person I know of that has done a w2a unit on a capa charger is opto. But I dont know what he was pulling before or after as he had his engine rebuilt to suit.
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Hi Shav, Here is my old set up on a 347ci.
 Charged air is cooled through here. Water runs back of cooler toward the front so the air is coolest at the motor.  Hot water heads over to the storage tank. Tank replaces battery which resides in the boot.  Stored water gets drawn though cooler mounted at front, it has it's own fan. The water pump is mounted to the side where is pumps the cold water to the back of the cooler at the top. I wired my Fan and pump of the fuel pump circuit. This set up made 361rwkw on 95 octain. |
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I reckon shav's cooler will look neat sitting between the centrifugal outlet and the T/B. just a matter of fabricating the right intake tube bents so that everything looks symmetrical.
It'll be less fiddly plus less piping for plumbing.
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EFFalcon wrote: Has anyone got details on power gains before/after intercooler when running a powerdyne. obviously you're limited in terms of boost on a powerdyne so i'm keen to see what kind benefits they give. EFFalcon, I'll let you know when mine's done! Could be a while though. I'm running an upgraded impeller on the powerdyne though, so boost should be higher than standard. Joe
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shav wrote: EFFalcon wrote: Has anyone got details on power gains before/after intercooler when running a powerdyne. obviously you're limited in terms of boost on a powerdyne so i'm keen to see what kind benefits they give. The only person I know of that has done a w2a unit on a capa charger is opto. But I dont know what he was pulling before or after as he had his engine rebuilt to suit. Opto is running a vortech, with fairly high (maybe 14psi?) boost.
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Slick wrote: I reckon shav's cooler will look neat sitting between the centrifugal outlet and the T/B. just a matter of fabricating the right intake tube bents so that everything looks symmetrical. It'll be less fiddly plus less piping for plumbing. Slick, I'm pretty sure it won't fit there on an AU. I looked at the option with the straight core, but there isn't even enough space beside the bbm to fit that water pump. Would be so easy if it fitted there though! I think the way Tim at raptor has run it is the only way the straight through core will fit.
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LTDHO wrote: Hi Shav, Here is my old set up on a 347ci. Charged air is cooled through here. Water runs back of cooler toward the front so the air is coolest at the motor. Hot water heads over to the storage tank. Tank replaces battery which resides in the boot. Stored water gets drawn though cooler mounted at front, it has it's own fan. The water pump is mounted to the side where is pumps the cold water to the back of the cooler at the top. I wired my Fan and pump of the fuel pump circuit. This set up made 361rwkw on 95 octain. Hey mate i was just wondering where u got all your stuff from. Cheers stuart
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hey fellas.
LTDHO - thanks for those pics mate. You have a pretty awesome setup. that core unit looks like it fits well under the bonnet. Slick - Thats the ultimate position Id live to fit it, but think the same as Joe when he says it will foul with the BBM. Having it fitted just above the headers is the best place for clearance. Thank god I invested in the heat shield. Either way it will be fitted, its just a case of where.
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What a shame
 have you tried dummy fitting just by sitting it between the shock tower and the BBM?... then take a bird eye view photo, don't just give up yet until I'm satisfied it can't be done. i like to see the actually size in that area so I can picture it, if you to mind of course.  Could be worth while getting hold of these heat sinkers as well. http://www.frozenboost.com/stpg.php?pag ... a8cb38e331
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Slick wrote: What a shame have you tried dummy fitting just by sitting it between the shock tower and the BBM?... then take a bird eye view photo, don't just give up yet until I'm satisfied it can't be done. i like to see the actually size in that area so I can picture it, if you to mind of course. I havent had the chance yet. When I came home from work last night it was dark outside. This morning I had no time. If I get the chance this weekend I will dummy fit it and take pics of it in profile to see high high it sits. But 5" in width and breadth is a lot to conceal. The other option is right at the back above the motor and against the firewall. That would give the greatest protection there. But Im not sure of how much room there is there. Once again, a dummy fit will answer that question. The heat from the engine will heat it up too, so Id have to fit a foil heat shield or stick on heat shield under the core to help protect it as best as possible.
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XR23IL wrote: LTDHO wrote: Hi Shav, Here is my old set up on a 347ci. Charged air is cooled through here. Water runs back of cooler toward the front so the air is coolest at the motor. Hot water heads over to the storage tank. Tank replaces battery which resides in the boot. Stored water gets drawn though cooler mounted at front, it has it's own fan. The water pump is mounted to the side where is pumps the cold water to the back of the cooler at the top. I wired my Fan and pump of the fuel pump circuit. This set up made 361rwkw on 95 octain. Hey mate i was just wondering where u got all your stuff from. Cheers stuart Forgot to say, LTDHO, that is a great setup! Looks super efficient with where the core sits in relation to blower outlet vs. TB....effectively no extra bends, and such short plumbing. Serious power too....did you have a figure before cooler was fitted, or did you make a lot of changes in one go? Joe
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Shav....
Will the charger fit in it's intended position with an ED log manifold?? Maybe mount it up a bit higher, and run the cooler over the intake similar to mine and then to the T/B??? Cheers Daz
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Ah the old subaru intercooler, is there anything it can't do/fit?
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XR23IL wrote: Hey mate i was just wondering where u got all your stuff from. Cheers stuart All custom and designed by myself. I did everything but the aluminum work. shav wrote: LTDHO - thanks for those pics mate. You have a pretty awesome setup. that core unit looks like it fits well under the bonnet.. No worries Shav, It all fitted surprisingly well. I am very happy with it. JoeXR6 wrote: Forgot to say, LTDHO, that is a great setup! Looks super efficient with where the core sits in relation to blower outlet vs. TB....effectively no extra bends, and such short plumbing. Serious power too....did you have a figure before cooler was fitted, or did you make a lot of changes in one go? Joe Thanks Joe, Works very well. I’m very happy with the way it lines up. I went W2A because I didn’t want the lag of long piping. I bought the upper cooler and made it work. Had to cut and weld. The power was an accident, I designed and built it with plans on making 300 even. It made that with ease.  4LEDboy wrote: Ah the old subaru intercooler, is there anything it can't do/fit? Yeah I sae it and thought it would fit with some mods. I didn't think it would flow so much! in fact I thought it would restrict my 300! Shav, sorry for stealing ya thread! |
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LTDHO, is there a particular reason why you decided to go from the core to the storage tank and then the heat exchanger? I thought the convention was to go from the core to the heat exchanger and then finally to the storage tank/ice box, thus limiting heat soak.
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