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Blu Falc wrote: Slabz wrote: CHEF wrote: If you wanna slide then you'll need lots of power, which rules out a cheapo turbo job i've only got 139rwkw at the moment and i can still kick it out on most low speed corners. i reckon 160rwkw would be a good point to aim for... that probably not gonna be enough for a decent job at mallala but in the wet and on small tracks like port gawler (or side streets) i can still have fun... yer 160KW@W should be fun and streetable, I doubt mine will go to the track regularly if at all, My system will be designed to be a punchy daily driver my thoughts exactly blu falc.
_________________ EBII 4.0L GLi | T5 | 3.27 Spool | POD | KKK K27 Turbo | 600x300x76 FMIC | 40mm Wastegate (dead) | RPD Stg1 Cam | B&M Launch Control | Thermos | 3" Dump | Twin 2.25" Zorst | 197kw@3500rpm, 7psi LEAN!
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Ah ok, though you were building a drifter... but if your only after 160kws why bother going to a turbo? Leave it NA and save yourself alot of hassles.
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CHEF wrote: Ah ok, though you were building a drifter... but if your only after 160kws why bother going to a turbo? Leave it NA and save yourself alot of hassles.
i can see the NA taking longer to get on power where as with a turbo i can get it to be more responsive by having a quick spooling turbo. plus i like the sound 
the other reason is that if i happen to kill an engine, then if im turbo, i can just bolt the stuff onto another cheap/stock engine but if i kill a hi powered NA then all that money is gone. just my pesimistic outlook. later on in life when im loaded  i can afford to do a full engine job properly.
_________________ EBII 4.0L GLi | T5 | 3.27 Spool | POD | KKK K27 Turbo | 600x300x76 FMIC | 40mm Wastegate (dead) | RPD Stg1 Cam | B&M Launch Control | Thermos | 3" Dump | Twin 2.25" Zorst | 197kw@3500rpm, 7psi LEAN!
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Slabz wrote: CHEF wrote: Ah ok, though you were building a drifter... but if your only after 160kws why bother going to a turbo? Leave it NA and save yourself alot of hassles. i can see the NA taking longer to get on power where as with a turbo i can get it to be more responsive by having a quick spooling turbo. plus i like the sound the other reason is that if i happen to kill an engine, then if im turbo, i can just bolt the stuff onto another cheap/stock engine but if i kill a hi powered NA then all that money is gone. just my pesimistic outlook. later on in life when im loaded i can afford to do a full engine job properly.Yer plus the midrange torque will be superior in a turbo car, also you can get more power when you want it with minimal tweaks on a turbo when compared to a N/A and you can shape the power delivery using an electronic boost controller. There wont be a low end trade off really when compared to a stage 4 cam needed for 160KW@W |
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Yep, all true... just go for more power man, dont shame us all by only achieving 160wkws
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CHEF wrote: Ah ok, though you were building a drifter... but if your only after 160kws why bother going to a turbo? Leave it NA and save yourself alot of hassles.
thats wat i was thinking
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fritz how much was ur plenum?
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OBS35N wrote: fritz how much was ur plenum?
Isnt that a question for a PM? |
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its just a simple question
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CHEF wrote: Yep, all true... just go for more power man, dont shame us all by only achieving 160wkws
thats a safe limit for a cheap setup |
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check the nizpro site
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a 160kw turbo will be much more drivable than a 160kw NA too. isnt the most powerful NA 4L 6 about 175kw? and thats with a stg5 jmm kit, etc.
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Slabz wrote: a 160kw turbo will be much more drivable than a 160kw NA too. isnt the most powerful NA 4L 6 about 175kw? and thats with a stg5 jmm kit, etc.
Yes and quite likely it will be faster over the 1/4 mile because of the higher average torque, less chance of getting caught out of gear in everyday driving |
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Blu Falc wrote: Slabz wrote: a 160kw turbo will be much more drivable than a 160kw NA too. isnt the most powerful NA 4L 6 about 175kw? and thats with a stg5 jmm kit, etc. Yes and quite likely it will be faster over the 1/4 mile because of the higher average torque, less chance of getting caught out of gear in everyday driving my thoughts exactly. the 3.89 diff gears go a long way towards helping that too (effectively smaller gaps in gears - speed-wise anyway) so combine the two and
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Slabz wrote: Blu Falc wrote: Slabz wrote: a 160kw turbo will be much more drivable than a 160kw NA too. isnt the most powerful NA 4L 6 about 175kw? and thats with a stg5 jmm kit, etc. Yes and quite likely it will be faster over the 1/4 mile because of the higher average torque, less chance of getting caught out of gear in everyday driving my thoughts exactly. the 3.89 diff gears go a long way towards helping that too (effectively smaller gaps in gears - speed-wise anyway) so combine the two and haha 3.89 gears will go a long way to giving you no traction, 3/4 throttle in my car round a corner in second and im sideways and thats with a 2.92 LSD 
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