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 Post subject: 185kw Motor Power Expectations
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 12:40 pm 
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Hi Fellas,

I know this is a bit of a loaded question but I just wanted to put it out there. I am picking up a EL XR8 in the next week. Its the 185kw with 3.45LSD all stock and factory.
I am looking at doing the following mods
1. Full exhaust system with decent extractors
2. CAI
3. Custom CAM
4. Aftermarket alloy heads
5. Under drive pulley kit
6. Full aftermarket ECU
7. Bigger throttle body
8. Porting the intake manifold (maybe even aftermarket)
9. Roller rockers
10. Bigger injectors and fuel pump
And finally a full custom tune.

Can someone please tell me what sort of power can I expect to achieve?

And alsowhat sort power do the 347 strokers make (just rough figures)
Both natrually asiprated?

Thanks in advance
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 Post subject: Re: 185kw Motor Power Expectations
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 1:31 pm 
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I would say around 190 to 220 rwkw
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 Post subject: Re: 185kw Motor Power Expectations
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 1:39 pm 
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{USERNAME} wrote:
I would say around 190 to 220 rwkw

Thanks mate.

What sort of quarter mile times? These things take a lot of work to get up and boggie!

How about the 347 stroker?
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 Post subject: Re: 185kw Motor Power Expectations
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:02 pm 
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this might help, http://www.aufalcon.com.au/cgi-bin/inde ... =timeslips

 

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 Post subject: Re: 185kw Motor Power Expectations
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:15 pm 
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Thanks for the link mate. It doesnt really say the mods the cars have.

I am just after a nice neat cruise that sounds tough as nails!!!

And has a bit of up and go. 12.5 quaters would ultimate.....

But I am assuming I would have to go stroker for that....

And I do not wish to fit a turbo or supercharger or NOS... All of my other cars already have this stuff so I would prefer a NA.
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 Post subject: Re: 185kw Motor Power Expectations
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:39 pm 
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by the looks of it, it will defiantly have to be a stroker. 12.5 quarter would be very fun on the street.

 

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 Post subject: Re: 185kw Motor Power Expectations
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 4:29 pm 
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damn.... I was really hoping to get away with bolt ons...

Aww well. Whats the quickest I can go with bolt ons?

Would flat 13's be possible with the mods I have mentioned above?

I really want to keep it neat as its a nice ride which is all orginal and molested.
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 Post subject: Re: 185kw Motor Power Expectations
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 4:44 pm 
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Yeah id say you would be able to do low 13's or 13 flat with the mods you listed.

 

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 Post subject: Re: 185kw Motor Power Expectations
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 4:44 pm 
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There has been some freak 220kw engine that have done mid 13's with out much work done to them

 

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 Post subject: Re: 185kw Motor Power Expectations
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 5:17 pm 
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Yeah i know but there isnt many of them around. Is there any other mods which i am forgetting that can possibly aid me further....
Or will it just have to be a stroker!
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 Post subject: Re: 185kw Motor Power Expectations
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 5:46 pm 
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I'm looking at ~180rwkw in my EB, which is the most basic setup. I have GT40P's, T3 Cam, Ported Explorer manifold, 65mm throttle body, 70mm MAF, Pacemaker 4000's and a 3" Exhaust. For a properly setup and tuned 5L, 240rwkw won't be out of the question, it just depends if you are willing to spend the cash to build it right.

 

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 Post subject: Re: 185kw Motor Power Expectations
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 9:43 pm 
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Definitely mate. I am more than happy to to perform all the mods listed above and more if I can achieve those sort of numbers
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 Post subject: Re: 185kw Motor Power Expectations
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:03 pm 
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Get the alloys ported. The guy I'd talk to would be Tony @ Knights Race Engines in SA.

 

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 Post subject: Re: 185kw Motor Power Expectations
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:14 pm 
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No stress mate, it won't be for a couple of months yet. I am just a few weeks of completing my supercharged EL.

I will be getting all my word done through Paul at cve! Top bloke he is. He knows his way around a falcon.
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 Post subject: Re: 185kw Motor Power Expectations
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:18 pm 
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I noticed your in vic, try SRE engines. (Spencer race engines) they have full engine packs drop in that would more than make the power you're after.

 

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