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| ED94V8 |
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Can u put 351 cleveland or windsor crank rods n pistons into a 302 efi windor out of an ed falcon,
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| XR9UTE |
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No.
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| falconed2xr8 |
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yes, it is possible but ya will possibly have to modify ya crank snout...
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| Walker |
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{USERNAME} wrote: yes, it is possible but ya will possibly have to modify ya crank snout...
Are you for real? |
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| falconed2xr8 |
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it has been done before...don't ya read the magazines??? The difference is in the crank or atleast the main difference is anyway...just by far cheaper...the 51 windsor and clevo share the same bore and stroke...if ya want to make a stroker, ya better of getting the kits of ebay...the 302 windsor is the baby block...better of putting 289 rods in it...but ya have to remember what ya want to achieve and that the 5 litre block has been thinned to reduce weight and ya have to also knotch the cyclinder bottom for the rods to clear on strokers
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| XR9UTE |
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Ok a 351C crank can be turned down to fit a 302 block but the cost in doing so makes it not worth the effort(or cost) when so many stroker cranks are already made to do this.
351 rods of either type will never fit in a short deck like a 5.0. In the case of a 351C rod of 5.78" plus 1.75"(1/2 of 3.5" stroke) = 7.53". So with the 5.0 deck height of 8.2" - 7.53" = 0.67" Compression height. Now if you eat 0.456"(1/2 of 0.912") away(not to mention little end thickness of the rod itself) with piston pin boss area that leaves 0.214" to fit rings in....impossible. A 351w rod is nearly 6" long so the rod is actually poking out the top of the block. |
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| falconed2xr8 |
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put a 351w in it stroke it to 427 and put 4v clevo heads on it and then mop the floor with a door
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| falconed2xr8 |
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my bad , i was thinking of the 351c and the 351w are the same, they are the two you can chop and change with little mods
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| BOTTLEDUP |
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Not a lot you can change between a 351 Clevo and Windsor...
Different: deck heights, pistons, rod widths, main journal size, crank snout, timing gear setup, oil pump, sump, camshaft... Same: Bore, stroke, lifters, firing order. Better change that sig. 
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| ED94V8 |
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so its not possible to put 351 windsor crank n rods into my 302 EFI motor?
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| XR9UTE |
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Actually Rod widths are the same it's the length that's different...I've got 302C rods in my 351W.
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| BOTTLEDUP |
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{USERNAME} wrote: so its not possible to put 351 windsor crank n rods into my 302 EFI motor?
No.
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| Macca |
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{USERNAME} wrote: Actually Rod widths are the same it's the length that's different...I've got 302C rods in my 351W.
Out of interest, what pistons are you using (to suit what?, or are they custom), are you using a Cleveland style head and pistons.
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| ED94V8 |
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its just a standard 302 EFI Windsor but i was thinking about stroking it to 347 then i was told i could put 351W crank and rods into it
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| BOTTLEDUP |
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Heads, cam, intake & throttlebody. They need to be changed on any model prior to the 185kW EL II to make any meaningful horsepower gain.
If you wanted to have a 347 you're up for a complete rebuild, and 90% of what you have goes in the bin.
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