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Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 8:50 pm 
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Firstly well done Voxace on the fantastic doco.. Everytime i undertake a modification, i cant be bothered stopping and taking photos of anything. Well done!

Secondly, i cant seem to find the same coloured wires in my plug??
My car is a 1996 EF Fairmont, and i can find the solid purple, the solid yellow, and the lightbrown-red wire, but i cant locate a purple-green trace.. i found a green wire-purple trace, and a pink-green trace, but cant find the purple-green trace wire the doco says.. The two wires that terminate off into their own plug are the pink-green trace, and solid purple in my loom. are these the ones i want???

Can anyone help me out??

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Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 12:16 am 
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I remember the wires on mine were the same colour as stated but I was confused as the colour of the wire was a bit crappy and faded. If you have a a workshop manual its helpful as you can eliminate the others, I just looked at the colours that were they and took the odd one out.

 

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Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 7:58 pm 
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MAJOR HELP NEEDED
please has anyone done the conversion to their 98 EL hybrid?
The loom is completely different, so have no idea where to use resistors or even to start. we tried plugging the auto's inhibitor switch back in to crank over but had no luck there.
lol pulled apart the freakn auto box aswell to get the round plug out and connecting that and still nothing!
HELP!
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Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 8:12 pm 
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MAJOR HELP NEEDED
please has anyone done the conversion to their 98 EL hybrid?
The loom is completely different, so have no idea where to use resistors or even to start. we tried plugging the auto's inhibitor switch back in to crank over but had no luck there.
lol pulled apart the freakn auto box aswell to get the round plug out and connecting that and still nothing!
HELP!


the car should start as the auto to man resistor trick is only to stop the fans being on all the time.... (as so have read from many of the topics/threds) i couldn't start my old EB cause i forgot a loom so check all ya wiring and alike and see, check fuses and alike if not iam sure some one will help... or also go to search and type in car won't start.. there are plenty on here about that

 

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Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:46 am 
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Hi all,

we are doing this conversion in an ED Falcon using a T5 from an EA, I have a questions if someone can help or point me to a thread that may cover this topic.

firstly the ED auto loom does not have the same coloured wires mentioned in the doco,
light brown with red stripe
solid yellow
solid violet
purple withe green stripe.

would appreciate if someone can tell me which coloured wires should be used.

thanks in advance.

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Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 10:20 am 
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{USERNAME} wrote:
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MAJOR HELP NEEDED
please has anyone done the conversion to their 98 EL hybrid?
The loom is completely different, so have no idea where to use resistors or even to start. we tried plugging the auto's inhibitor switch back in to crank over but had no luck there.
lol pulled apart the freakn auto box aswell to get the round plug out and connecting that and still nothing!
HELP!


the car should start as the auto to man resistor trick is only to stop the fans being on all the time.... (as so have read from many of the topics/threds) i couldn't start my old EB cause i forgot a loom so check all ya wiring and alike and see, check fuses and alike if not iam sure some one will help... or also go to search and type in car won't start.. there are plenty on here about that


Thanks for that we got it running :) And yes the thermos run all the time now, does anyone know where to put the resistor?
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 10:20 pm 
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im halfway through putting an 1990 ea s pack t5 into my ebII gli
my questions are will the ea ecu plug straight in?
and what what loom needs to be carried over from the ea?
the electrical is the only problem im having ive traced the 2 wires from the clutch pedal back to the firewall but cant find them on the other side.
any help will be appreciated
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Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 12:53 am 
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Why would you want to swap the ECU's?

Just put the resistors in to convince the eb ECU that its in neutral and your good to go.

I'm running an auto EL ECU (that thinks it's in neutral) in my ea and it's great.

The EB likely has revised fuel tables etc.. so better off keeping the newer ECU if you can.
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Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 1:00 pm 
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ve got both looms (manaul and auto) can i just use the manual loom with the manual ecu and not have to cut wires and what not?
also what is the plug on the clutch pedal and where does it go too?
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Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:44 am 
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anyone? this is the last thing needed to be done before i dump the clutch for the first time lol
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Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 1:17 pm 
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If you have manual loom and manual ECU, what would there be to cut and join?
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Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 1:32 pm 
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so its just plug and playh then?
thanks heaps mate
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 Post subject: resistor "trick" work for EL ecu's
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 5:36 pm 
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just a quicky, but does that resistor "trick" work for EL ecu's??? i heard its only for EF's anyone confirm please?


Should be the same. Wire colours could possibly be different.


where can i get the instuctions on how to trick the ecu
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 1:48 pm 
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hmm having trouble with the clutch fork and throwut beariong not sitting in place it keeps falling out a mechanic said that there should be a spring but this guide doesnt mention that and the guy i spoke to is a holden nut that hasnt worked on a t5
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 2:45 pm 
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{USERNAME} wrote:
hmm having trouble with the clutch fork and throwut beariong not sitting in place it keeps falling out a mechanic said that there should be a spring but this guide doesnt mention that and the guy i spoke to is a holden nut that hasnt worked on a t5


there should be a small allen key bolt in the bellhousing that holds the clutch fork in position and the tension on the clutch cable holds it against the pressure plate..it shouldnt come out unless the fork is damaged or it wasnt bolted on properly before it was fitted..

im actually doing a 5 speed conversion on my ed today and the clutch fork doesnt come out unless i undo that allen key bolt..
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