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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 9:32 pm 
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mates thats a great doco eh, you could write that up as a book and sell it, any ways i might just put a manuel in my car now cheers mate

 

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Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 2:35 pm 
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super doco man should be made sticky, did mine on the weekend the resistor trick works but not 100% great doco.
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Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 5:12 pm 
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I did my trans change over a month ago now. Took a copy of this doco along with me just in case but had read it enough times to know it backwards:P It took me and dad 8 hrs to do mine including unloading tools and packing up. A lot of that was standing around dumbfounded as to what to do next. I know if i were to do it again in the same conditions i coule do it in 5 or 6 hrs. Hardest part was lifting the auto out in my opinion. Manual in was a breeze. Even 3 of us under it nearly managed to drop the old auto. Was a heavy bastard and the oil was very black :P
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 5:46 pm 
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Will this conversion work on AU2? Using the respective parts of course...

 

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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:20 pm 
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i know i've probably overlooked it, but is this the same to an extent when converting the v8 auto to manual?? or is there anyone out there who may be able to help??
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Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 11:45 am 
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i know i've probably overlooked it, but is this the same to an extent when converting the v8 auto to manual?? or is there anyone out there who may be able to help??


The mechanical side of the conversion should be the same out with old auto & in with new manual. Dash removal is the same if you need to swap peddle boxes ( if not using the mal wood clutch pin ).

Wiring, well that depends...... does your V8 have a separate trans computer or not?

My g/f had a chance to drive my EB with the 5spd in it the other w/e, and was rather impressed with it, to the point she is rather disappointed she will have to drive the ED with the auto in it for a while, mighty boy has either blown a head gaskit or cracked the head. :( Not sure yet.

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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 7:03 pm 
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does anyone have this doco around? i cant see it anywere
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 7:05 pm 
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lol first post, first page :wink:
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 2:02 am 
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regarding removing the spigot bearing,
wet paper towel. or news paper.
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after the flywheel is off and you can just see the edge of the crank and the spigot bearing, wet a heap of paper towel and push it inside the bearing, compact it heaps until its bulging out of the edge, then use a punch the size of the hole and a hammer (good size bolt if you dont have a punch) and compress the paper in more, then keep putting in more paper and compressing.
saw it done today in an EA!
the idea is that compressing the paper through the bearing hole will force the bearing back out evenly over the whole surface due to displacement.
id say thats cheaper and easier than sourcing the tool :D

 

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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 2:09 am 
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now iv got my own question :oops:
firstly, will my LTD tailshaft fit straight into the EA/B gearbox? just wondering considering the EA boxes have different ratios to the EF boxes..

secondly.. with the resistor trick to the auto ecu, another guy at work has had idling issues, it sits at 1100 rpm. he's told me though that he tricked it into thinking its in drive rather than neutral so im assuming it thinks its under load and being countered by hte brakes so adjusts accordingly.
but even tricking into neutral i would have thought it would idle higher anyway, due to a flywheel weighing at lot less than a torque convertor and therefore much easier to spin and slow down
(hence the better throttle response in factory manuals)

i hope i've made sense and thinking the right way :shock:

 

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Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 5:29 pm 
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I would be very surprised if there is any changes in the shaft diameter & splines between falcon & ltd's. Only the length to suit the body.

As for the engine rev's. I thought the docu's say to trick the ecu to think neutral? Rev's are probably higher because it thinks it's got a load on it when it doesn't.

Yes the throttle response of the manual is much crisper. :-) Now i've gone manual, i don't think i could go back, except on a 1/4 mile car maybe.

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Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 7:21 pm 
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yeh, i dont know why he tricked it into drive and im sure thats most of the reason its ideling high, but would the weight of the torque converter being more than the flwheel make the auto ecu want to rev a little higher to compensate?

 

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K&N panel filter, custom 3" piping
Factory 3.23 LSD
5 Spd Conversion, EA Box, shortened shifter, heavy duty clutch.
Lowered with Pedders
J3 Chip on the go..

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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 12:19 am 
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probly somethin to mention..
i had mine all goin well last night and this mornin at work, right down to the end etc everythin good.
went to put in the cltch cable and adjust it up... f**k! too long :evil:
guess i should mention that an EA(so i assume EB and ED) clutch cables wont fit EF's lol.. so spewin because it was too late to rush out and get one and finish off! have to wait till monday arvo :cry:

 

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K&N panel filter, custom 3" piping
Factory 3.23 LSD
5 Spd Conversion, EA Box, shortened shifter, heavy duty clutch.
Lowered with Pedders
J3 Chip on the go..

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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 12:42 am 
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whoops!! 13mm deep sockets also cant be used as a bodge spacer...

 

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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 1:06 am 
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myess this its true lance.. welcome! haha
works fkin awesom now, that pedal fork bit is holding strong now too. so its all good :D

killer skids :twisted:

 

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K&N panel filter, custom 3" piping
Factory 3.23 LSD
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Lowered with Pedders
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