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RMCprime wrote: in the diagram are 71 and 81 the pin numbers also is the ecu found under the kick panel in the passenger footwell. peyote may i ask how u determined what resistors to and pot yo use Im gonna do this. yep 71 & 81 are the pins on the plug that goes to the ECU (behind passanger side kick panel) my mod 1 resistor 10 watt 18 Ohm 1 pot 15 watt 5 Ohm (goes inbetween pin 81 to variate shift hardness) on/on switch (standard mode / adjustable shift mode) the original mod i copyed fromhere 1 resistor 10 watt 18 Ohm 1 resistor 10 watt 5.6 Ohm (goes inbetween pin 81 makes shift harder) on/on switch (standard mode / adjustable shift mode) i worked out from reading all the mods on here that the 10watt 5.6 Ohm resistor was what makes it shift harder something to do with a solenoid inside the trans. and figured if i could get a pot with those spec i'd have an adjustable shift kit http://www.fordmods.com/forums/viewtopi ... t=shiftkit fiftyone wrote: i wasn't 100% sure if that was the way to do it as i thought a higher resistance would give a softer shift. you can turn it on but all the way down right?
yep if i have mine on if i turn it all the way down the shift is as if it was in nornal shift mode sorry for the late reply |
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your version is much more simple
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peyote wrote: i worked out from reading all the mods on here that the 10watt 5.6 Ohm resistor was what makes it shift harder something to do with a solenoid inside the trans.
and figured if i could get a pot with those spec i'd have an adjustable shift kit Yep. You're changing the power going to the S5 solenoid. Usually, EEC ramps up power just before a shift... this has the effect of reducing line pressure in the box and giving a nice smooth feel. More power to S5 = lower line pressure = smoother shift. You're limiting the power EEC can apply to the S5... preventing the line pressure from being reduced.
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Isn't the reason for needing 2 resistors so that a) current can be reduced to the solenoid, and b) Current drawn from ecu can be maintained so that it doesn't throw a fault code?
If so, won't adjusting one pot, but not changing the other resistor value cause a code to pop up? Or does everything stay in spec?
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ok another question that needs a dam good answer, say i want to use switch as on, off, and LHM. if i have a 3 position switch and put it in the middle to disable the signal, will i need a new gearbox after it explodes or is it safe to use?
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I'd recommend against using switches to transfer the main circuit. I would use a switch to turn on a relay that controls the circuit instead. Reason being, switches introduce small timing problems, and its possible that they can be in a neutral position simply by not being switched fully. A relay doesn't have this problem, and switchover time is extremely fast.
The other reason is so you could later put in a controller to turn the relay on based on sudden driving habits. You could have it on gentle shifts as default, then if you floor it and activate, say, a micro connected to the accelerator (or a delta TPS sensor), you could make it switch over to hard shifts automatically. You could then use a 3 position switch for Off, On, or Auto/Demand Not sure what you're asking about having a neutral position. Why would you want it? I suppose it could act as somewhat of a deterrant for someone who might have just stole your car. Have the immobiliser add another point of immobilisation - If they do manage to hotwire and start it, they have a car that runs like a slug and has bugger all power
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actually got energetic today and installed mine. had a few teathing problems but works ok. a firmer shift but no tyre squeal like promised.
and i did try the fully off position, sends ecu to LHM and is a pig to drive. other than that it'll deffinately improve 1/4 times
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fiftyone wrote: actually got energetic today and installed mine. had a few teathing problems but works ok. a firmer shift but no tyre squeal like promised.
and i did try the fully off position, sends ecu to LHM and is a pig to drive. other than that it'll deffinately improve 1/4 times I will be getting a stage 1 shift kit from shiftkits.com in the next few days. I'll let you know how it goes. I know these ones don't let the car go in limp home mode. By using a parallel resistor combo or something similar in there little sealed black box. So the ecu doesn't know any different. Stage 1 was $70 plus $15 postage. Cheers..........
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i could make a stage 1 kit for you for $20 no postage. got mine working, i can use LHM for an added security feature, plus mines adjustable for an extra $5. the stage 3 from shiftkits about $150 or something!
crazy
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That limp home mode idea for security is a good one.
A mate of mine had a VC commodore with a completlty f*cked auto box. It got stolen from a shopping centre and the thief must have got the s**t with it because he parked it up the road 1 km away still with half a tank of gas in it.
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yeah i know, unfortunetly you can still drive it, and if you've stolen a car and it doesn't start. Wouldn't your first reaction be to look for a stall switch?
i have a way around that anyway, take the heating coil out of the lighter and have it click in to compleate the starter motor circut
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any more specifics on the pot you used for the adjustable shift kit? i went to jaycar today and they didnt have anything 5ohm- 50 ohm, yes but nothing as low as 5 ohm.
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el__fairmont how did you go with your shift kit from shiftkit.com any good?
Greg
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i went out and got the stage 2 kit from shiftkits.com and its good fun chirps 2nd, it gets turned off in the wet found myself in some tight spots before because of it. all in all i love it when the sequential shifter goes in it should be even better.
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phillis wrote: any more specifics on the pot you used for the adjustable shift kit? i went to jaycar today and they didnt have anything 5ohm- 50 ohm, yes but nothing as low as 5 ohm. for those interested the 5ohm 15watt pot is CAT. NO. RP3975 and is $12.95
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