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What's the correct fluid to use?
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metasaiah wrote: What's the correct fluid to use? TQ95 or equivalent
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Castrol TQ95 is the correct fluid. Do the diff while you're at it with Castrol LSX90. You'll need 12-14l of TQ95 for a proper flush (capacity is 10l) and approx 1.6l of LSX90
I did the flush yesterday as well as the diff. Both fluids were nearly black and rank! My method: Detach cooler pipe - its the lower of the two metal pipes going into the rad. (17mm) Attach rubber hose to pipe and into a 2l bottle Loosen Filler plug under car (16mm) Undo oil pan bolts 1 turn (10mm) Hold Oil pan and undo rest of bolts apart from one Lower oil pan and let fluid flow Clean oil pan, magnets and remove old gasket material Remove fliuid filter clip (pliers) Remove fluid filter & discard Remove filler plug Install new filter & gasket (with new ribbed O-ring) Fill 4l oil into filler plug Reattach filler plug hand tight Start engine and pump 2l of oil out, then refill through filler plug. Repeat 3/4 times until red fluid comes out. Replace O-ring on filler plug. Reattach cooler pipe and filler plug. Test drive car. Top up as required. I did it with only 12l so the fluid wasn't fully red, but it's certainly better than it was! |
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MarkIrl wrote: Castrol TQ95 is the correct fluid. All the major brands make an equivalent product, it doesn't have to be castrol
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metasaiah wrote: What's the correct fluid to use? I used PENRITE ATF_95_LE transmission oil, specifically designed for ford auto transmissions http://www.penriteoil.com.au/products/automatic-transmission-oils/atf_95_le
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I was talking to the old man there yesty and he has worked at Ford for 30 years...
Originally they changed the 4 Litres in the box and on the dipstick it was still black (obvious when the complete system holds 10 litres)... Using the pneumatic brake bleed on the return line from the cooler they can now suck 9 Litres out of the system and no oil is wasted doing a flush... The only that remain is the bottom half of the torque converter... Flushing it seems wasteful to me and I'm all for saving money where I can esp when the oil is that dear anyway... You'd near buy the brake bleeder for the price of the oil your wasting and have it future use (works on everything  )http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Air-Brake-Bleedi ... 5d29fb19fe We done this when we put the spare trans in the little bros car and the oil is a red as even after the first month... So it definitely is a working method... Also on the note of the sealed boxes from EF onward I found the reason for it... The idea was behind it... You pull up at a non self serve servo and the assistant would come out and fill you up... check your water and fluids and say oh your trans is down a bit... They wonder in, find the first trans fluid they have and fill it up for you... 5Km down the road the box was cactus... So the reasoning behind it is to stop people who don't know what there doing and which oil is required from servicing it in any way and hence the trend to making them sealed... Not at all a bad idea... In a way... Unless you like us here who know which oil they need and do want to be able to maintain them ourselves... Cheers, Tim
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Quote: So the reasoning behind it is to stop people who don't know what there doing and which oil is required from servicing it in any way and hence the trend to making them sealed... Not at all a bad idea... In a way... Funny I heard it was another cost cutting measure, a bit like not painting inside the engine bay  your reason makes more sense, but you never know what Ford are thinking
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madmax wrote: Quote: So the reasoning behind it is to stop people who don't know what there doing and which oil is required from servicing it in any way and hence the trend to making them sealed... Not at all a bad idea... In a way... Funny I heard it was another cost cutting measure, a bit like not painting inside the engine bay your reason makes more sense, but you never know what Ford are thinking Yeah...whats cheaper.....a tube, o'ring & dipstick...or a bung & o'ring...????? Which is faster to fit....?????? All economics, eh?
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cost may have been a contributor though the other idea makes it sound like they are favouring the customer and not themselves...
 Can a dipstick be fitted to the later 4 speeds? I'm guessing like the 6 speeds wouldn't even have a bung... Simply wouldn't be the room for it... Cheers, Tim
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I've heard that they can be fitted to the later 4 speeds. Best done with the box out so you can drill the hole in the right place and make sure no swarf remains inside.
My EL had a EF casing fitted to it
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cjh wrote: madmax wrote: Quote: So the reasoning behind it is to stop people who don't know what there doing and which oil is required from servicing it in any way and hence the trend to making them sealed... Not at all a bad idea... In a way... Funny I heard it was another cost cutting measure, a bit like not painting inside the engine bay your reason makes more sense, but you never know what Ford are thinking Yeah...whats cheaper.....a tube, o'ring & dipstick...or a bung & o'ring...????? Which is faster to fit....?????? All economics, eh? They save a dollar here, and another there, it all adds up. But it all just rumour.
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