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Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 7:32 pm 
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Basically, can an XR6 sedan 3.54 LSD fit to an EF wagon or will there be dramas because of the different rear suspension and that?
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Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 8:25 pm 
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pretty sure you can't swap them over - due to the fact wagons have the leaf suspension...

 

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Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 9:03 pm 
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So ute's would bge the same? Maybe i'll have to fit a fancy diff in from one of those Outback XH utes or something..
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Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 10:35 pm 
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9" diff out of a leaf sprung falcon?

 

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Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 11:02 pm 
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So ute's would bge the same? Maybe i'll have to fit a fancy diff in from one of those Outback XH utes or something..

yup, any diff from XA-XD sedans, coupes, wagons, XA-XH utes&panelvans will physically bolt straight up, but the pick would be an XHII XR6/8 diff, cos the outbacks IIRC had a different diff ratio

 

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Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 11:58 pm 
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yup, any diff from XA-XD sedans, coupes, wagons, XA-XH utes&panelvans will physically bolt straight up, but the pick would be an XHII XR6/8 diff, cos the outbacks IIRC had a different diff ratio


As far as i know the Outback featured a hydrolic diff (dunno what the advatage/difference is on that) which was 3.45 LSD, it was called Hydratrak or something funny.

Did any of the XA-XD's have an LSD diff ratio similar to 3.45?

I might go talk to some of the diff shops and see if any of them have some options for me next time I've got a day off.
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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 11:14 am 
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As far as i know the Outback featured a hydrolic diff (dunno what the advatage/difference is on that) which was 3.45 LSD, it was called Hydratrak or something funny.


I believe thats a diff lock

 

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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 2:00 pm 
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The hydratrack diff used a viscous coupling instead of the spring and cones of the sedan LSD. Don't know what the difference is performance wise but would probabily be a bit slower to react.

 

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So ute's would bge the same? Maybe i'll have to fit a fancy diff in from one of those Outback XH utes or something..


I used one from an XH ute, and the handbrake setup was different.. hence haven't had a handbrake for the last 2-3 years :)

 

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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 2:07 pm 
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So ute's would bge the same? Maybe i'll have to fit a fancy diff in from one of those Outback XH utes or something..


I used one from an XH ute, and the handbrake setup was different.. hence haven't had a handbrake for the last 2-3 years :)


o dang, i can't have that. what diff came standard in your XR6 wagon? any idea what models have the same handbrake set up on the diff? I guess i'll look at just changing the internals of my current diff.
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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 2:18 pm 
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So ute's would bge the same? Maybe i'll have to fit a fancy diff in from one of those Outback XH utes or something..


I used one from an XH ute, and the handbrake setup was different.. hence haven't had a handbrake for the last 2-3 years :)


No handbrake living in Sydney? You're mad :lol:

 

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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 4:23 pm 
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So ute's would bge the same? Maybe i'll have to fit a fancy diff in from one of those Outback XH utes or something..


I used one from an XH ute, and the handbrake setup was different.. hence haven't had a handbrake for the last 2-3 years :)


o dang, i can't have that. what diff came standard in your XR6 wagon? any idea what models have the same handbrake set up on the diff? I guess i'll look at just changing the internals of my current diff.


Your only candidates are EF/EL Wagons.

Mine isnt an XR6, but it came with 3.23:1 LSD from factory.

Best bet is to just change the center and or gears..

 

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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 6:00 pm 
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[quote="Waggin]Your only candidates are EF/EL Wagons.

Mine isnt an XR6, but it came with 3.23:1 LSD from factory.

Best bet is to just change the center and or gears..[/quote]
o wow, i always thought yours was a genuine XR6 wagon.

Cheers for that though, next time I've got time off I'll find out about changing the center or gears. but i thought i read in another thread that the 3.45 LSD peices couldn't be fitted to a normal diff, ahd to be an entire diff swap.
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Nope! all same :)

 

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