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 Post subject: Re: Ford AUII Forte No Gears - Auto Trans Urgent
Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 12:36 am 
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Troyman,

I'm not familiar how vehicles work with electronic sensors, hence all new to me.

Maybe the torque convertor or oil pump has failed. Guess I wont know until I check it out on Saturday arvo.

If it's the torque convertor it would give a metal rattle sound if it's knackered?
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 Post subject: Re: Ford AUII Forte No Gears - Auto Trans Urgent
Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 5:54 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Ford AUII Forte No Gears - Auto Trans Urgent
Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 1:58 pm 
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SWC, thanks for the link about 2nd hand gearbox.


I did try to engage the auto trans from a cold start and nothing. Tow truk arrived, even the tow bloke was at a a loss. He reckons I should still be able to limp home in 3rd gear but losing all gears its like all the trans fluid was dumped.

I got my car back this morning and crawled underneath it..No transmission leaks anywhere.

I levelled the car (Assumed level) undone the filer plug and out came about a litre or so of fluid.

It looked dark. It first looked dark red light brown, but when looking at it in the container, the fluid look blackish...could not smell anything unusual. Smelt like Trans fluid as per normal.

Drained the sump, it was dark coloured, no sign of any metal flakes, Only one magnet located on the sump pan.

Putting the filter retaining clip into position is not easy, required a lot of effort.

I could be up for another box second hand, can't afford new one these days, being on a pension.

I still don't know if its just solenoid issues. Just seems odd for all gears to go without being able to go into limp mode.
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 Post subject: Re: Ford AUII Forte No Gears - Auto Trans Urgent
Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 3:39 pm 
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could be a pump failure?? everything is probably in working order just no pressure from pump to drive anything?
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 Post subject: Re: Ford AUII Forte No Gears - Auto Trans Urgent
Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 10:54 pm 
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Troyman.

Hmmm. Pump Failure.

Does one have to take the transmission box out of the car to fix that or can that be fixed without pulling the gearbox apart?
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 Post subject: Re: Ford AUII Forte No Gears - Auto Trans Urgent
Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 11:30 pm 
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unfortunatly its internal and box would have to be pulled out, probably still better to source a replacement...
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 Post subject: Re: Ford AUII Forte No Gears - Auto Trans Urgent
Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 12:07 am 
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Troyman,

Thanks, sounds like I may have to.

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 Post subject: Re: Ford AUII Forte No Gears - Auto Trans Urgent
Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 12:12 pm 
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For everyones info,

I've topped up transfluid, whether its been distributed by the transmission pump I could not say. I started the engine, placed gear into Drive and noticed driveshaft did not spin.

To check if diff worked. I turned the rear wheel by hand and yes the dreshaft / tailshaft spins. Also done the same with rear wheel on passenegers side.

I then decided to see if I can turn the rear wheel in Park position...yes I can turn it as well as the tailshaft, there was a slight resistance with a slight noise from the rear end of gearbox, hard to tell without someone else providing assistance.

So, there it is,

I'd like to know where those Ford blokes plug the computer in to see what error codes etc are seen
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 Post subject: Re: Ford AUII Forte No Gears - Auto Trans Urgent
Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 12:41 pm 
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the fault codes are read from the black obd port (black rectangle plug) on the right hand side in the fuse box..
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 Post subject: Re: Ford AUII Forte No Gears - Auto Trans Urgent
Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 12:58 am 
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Troyman,

Thanks for that, I seen some rectangular socket but was not sure what it was used for.

A slight correction to my last post.

I had a bloke next door to hold the rear passenger side wheel whilst I rotate the rear drivers side wheel when gear is in Park selection. This is to confirm tailshaft does not rotate, so Park selector does work.

Anyone know where I can obtain the software and plug to access the ECU data
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 Post subject: Re: Ford AUII Forte No Gears - Auto Trans Urgent
Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:49 am 
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Hello again,

Can anyone let me know which brand / make of OBD Scan Tool I need to access the ECU.

I've done a bit of searching and seems to be a lot of confusion on this.

Any person that has used or still uses this tool on the AUII (Forte), could you let me know what name / brand / make of OBD Scan Tool that you are using.

Does this tool come with the plug connector or is it separate and where can I purchase it?

As far as I know, the OBD outlet is a serial port.

Happy New Year to all.
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