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I'll see how it goes after I trim the shims , the clearance between the side of the rotor and anchor plate is 3 mm on both sides top of rotor is around 1-2 mm
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ef_falcon_95 wrote: Thanks for the info ToranaGuy . The brakes are getting better now they have bedded in more . Au2 master cylinder would be something to look into.. You will need to fit an AUII Booster as well. The AUII Master Cylinder does not work well with an EF/EL Booster. |
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SWC wrote: ef_falcon_95 wrote: Thanks for the info ToranaGuy . The brakes are getting better now they have bedded in more . Au2 master cylinder would be something to look into.. You will need to fit an AUII Booster as well. The AUII Master Cylinder does not work well with an EF/EL Booster. Yeah someone was saying the bolt holes dont line up ? I'll need to also use au2 brake lines or get adapator fittings . Seeing as the theads a JIC I'll stick with the el lines and use fittings .
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ef_falcon_95 wrote: SWC wrote: ef_falcon_95 wrote: Thanks for the info ToranaGuy . The brakes are getting better now they have bedded in more . Au2 master cylinder would be something to look into.. You will need to fit an AUII Booster as well. The AUII Master Cylinder does not work well with an EF/EL Booster. Yeah someone was saying the bolt holes dont line up ? I'll need to also use au2 brake lines or get adapator fittings . Seeing as the theads a JIC I'll stick with the el lines and use fittings . Master Cylinder will bolt up but the rod on the Booster is diferent to the EF/EL, needs the AUII to match with. AUII Booster needs 4 holes to bolt up, very much like the EB/ED Boosters. Only the EF/EL AUI were 2 bolt. |
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SWC wrote: ef_falcon_95 wrote: SWC wrote: ef_falcon_95 wrote: Thanks for the info ToranaGuy . The brakes are getting better now they have bedded in more . Au2 master cylinder would be something to look into.. You will need to fit an AUII Booster as well. The AUII Master Cylinder does not work well with an EF/EL Booster. Yeah someone was saying the bolt holes dont line up ? I'll need to also use au2 brake lines or get adapator fittings . Seeing as the theads a JIC I'll stick with the el lines and use fittings . Master Cylinder will bolt up but the rod on the Booster is diferent to the EF/EL, needs the AUII to match with. AUII Booster needs 4 holes to bolt up, very much like the EB/ED Boosters. Only the EF/EL AUI were 2 bolt. actually the bolts holes on the au master cyl are wider/further apart than the e series and wont bolt up, i was going to try the au one on my booster and it was not going to fit... but as a unit the booster and master cyl can be made to fit... |
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AUII master will bolt up as mentioned to an EF/EL booster. The AUII snout is about 4mm longer, but the EF/EL booster recess is deep enough for it to fit. The EF/EL master cyl has a deeper recess for the booster pushrod than the AUII, so you'll need to adjust in the screw at the pushrod end. A bit of depth measuring should see you have it sorted.
Check at a brake place, but I'd think you'd need to adjust it to have a slight gap with the piston at rest. Brakeline fittings look the same. The EF/EL piston stroke is about 2-3mm longer than the AU, but I'd doubt that it would provide an issue. Boosters seem to all be 230mm single diaphragm, so I'd think there'd wouldn't be any assistance differences. Correct me if I'm wrong . . . .
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Isn't the au2 brake booster twin diaphragm , therefore better than el single diaphragm ?
Tomorrow I'll be swapping rotors so the slots face to the rear , so who knows it might brake a lot better then ?
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snap0964 wrote: AUII master will bolt up as mentioned to an EF/EL booster. The AUII snout is about 4mm longer, but the EF/EL booster recess is deep enough for it to fit. The EF/EL master cyl has a deeper recess for the booster pushrod than the AUII, so you'll need to adjust in the screw at the pushrod end. A bit of depth measuring should see you have it sorted. Check at a brake place, but I'd think you'd need to adjust it to have a slight gap with the piston at rest. Brakeline fittings look the same. The EF/EL piston stroke is about 2-3mm longer than the AU, but I'd doubt that it would provide an issue. Boosters seem to all be 230mm single diaphragm, so I'd think there'd wouldn't be any assistance differences. Correct me if I'm wrong . . . . without getting to far into it, if the au2 master fits e series booster as mentioned, wtf is on our au? it wont bolt up to my ed booster, there is about 20mm diference in bolt spacing... |
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Is there a difference between the boxcar and EF/EL master cylinder bolt spacings?
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ef_falcon_95 wrote: Isn't the au2 brake booster twin diaphragm , therefore better than el single diaphragm ? Why don't you 'Ask Papa Smurf' ?? Be good to know for sure.TROYMAN wrote: without getting to far into it, if the au2 master fits e series booster as mentioned, wtf is on our au? it wont bolt up to my ed booster, there is about 20mm diference in bolt spacing... I'll check the other AUII master I have, but I'm assuming I'll find the same.BenJ wrote: Is there a difference between the boxcar and EF/EL master cylinder bolt spacings?BenJ Beats me - EF/EL master holes centre to centre are 90mm in a straight line.
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According to this au2 brake booster is twin diaphragm
gearbox-suspension-brake-driveline-f4/au-brake-booster-into-e-series-upgrade-t76571.html
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Good pickup.
Ash's comments in that thread are consistent with what I said about pushrod lengths. Might have to investigate feasibility of swapping booster internals - mainly for convenience of running EF/EL booster body.
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I would rather the au2 booster because its metal , I've had the plastic ones crack and its not the best thing when your going down jamberoo pass and have to the hand brake to slow down lol
Anyway my stickers finally came .   
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ef_falcon_95 wrote: I would rather the au2 booster because its metal , I've had the plastic ones crack and its not the best thing when your going down jamberoo pass and have to the hand brake to slow down lol Yeah, I meant for my use - I'd think changing internals is not a popular option, provided it's possible that is.Yeah, I'm aware of the issues with plastic, but I've never had any issues TBH. Manual transmissions make good brakes also - especially down steep hills.
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Found out why the shim was rubbing on the rotor , it wasn't the rotor moving it was the shim sliding . I still trimmed it down and bent the tabs over so it couldnt move , that should fix it.
Swapped the rotors over and twisted the brake lines so they don't touch anything and sit up high   ,, 
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