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Hi Guys,
Just posting this in case someone else has encountered a similar situation. It's relatively long because of the details. Point is trying to determine of the alternative wheels/tyres are up to spec load rating wise and if so it's less contentious that they are classified as a minor modification in NSW - subject to hidden gotchas NSW is fairly simple from what I have read assuming the wheels/tyres fit with no issues etc Famous last words perhaps... track width increase - no decrease wheel/tyre width increase of 25mm appropriate load rating according to the tyre placard rolling diameter does not change by less/more 7% Al other factors regarding same type, profile, width etc as per roadworthy requirements. I have written a detailed set of question to the technical enquiries email of NSW RMS and will share their response to potentially assist others once I have heard back. Currently fitted 19x8 alloy wheels King Wheels Kobia GT - load rating of the wheels is 690KG fitted with 235/35/R19 91Y [615 kg] so suitable for max front axle load, not for max rear axle load, so likely a grey area where I don't want to get trapped, although my ute ain't carrying heavy loads any time soon Two potential tyres I am considering for the rear axle are 235/40/R19 96Y Diameter: 670mm Load rating: 710Kg 245/40/R19 98Y Diameter: 679mm Load rating: 750Kg Width and profile changes are within the permitted change envelope front/rear The guy that does my rego [also tyres] thinks that the tyres should be C rated - in the process of getting two new tyres, yet to be ordered, until I hear back from RMS I said WHOAH does that mean that every Ute in NSW with mags is illegal, he thinks so, I disagree, and here's why... As a result - I've done a bucket load of reading, links provided in case anyone else gets mired in any of this themselves. Realistically trying to avoid engineer certification if possible and I don't want to get into an argumen with the guy doing the rego inspection - the RMS response should cover that. Trying to make this as close to authoritative as possible as I know the question comes up a lot, asked often on forums and responses are extremely variable... Documents read: Infrastructure.gov VSB14 - alternative wheels/tyres https://www.infrastructure.gov.au/sites ... 015_v4.pdf Pages 1-2 Page 6 Section 1.1 Page 17 - Australian Design rules Pages 18 - 19 Section 4.1 - if applicable, Section 4.2 Page 20 - 21 Section 4.2.8 - 4.2.9 if applicable - passenger vehicles and derivatives Page 22 - 23 Sections 4.2.10 - 4.2.12 if applicable - light goods vehicles This document says to refer to each jurisdiction [state] where registration is sought as not all of the specifications are enforced in each jurisdiction - specifically I have asked RMS about Sections 4.1 and 4.2 and the need/requirement to increase load ratings of passenger* wheels/tyres by 1.1 for light commercial vehicles* [standard tyres on my ute aren't load rated "C" commercial {light goods vehicle] according to the Ford publishes specs] NSW.gov VSI 06 https://www.nsw.gov.au/sites/default/fi ... r-2013.pdf Pages 7-8: Items 13 - 15 NSW.gov VSI 09 https://www.nsw.gov.au/sites/default/fi ... r-2003.pdf The document is explanatory in nature and fairly simple Maximum track width specs as published ny the SA Govt - assuming the specs are sourced from infrastructure.gov originally https://www.sa.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf ... s-2021.pdf Page 77 row 9 BA Utility, inc XR series Maximum track width: Front 1578mm Rear 1571mm superseded by the Ford published spec sheet I just found linked below One document which I only discovered today is - [it's important] http://australiancar.reviews/_pdfs/Ford ... 200410.pdf I found that spec sheet by searching BA Falcon GVM - I couldn't for love nor money find published detailed specs previously. Tyre placard specs state: Ford Motor Company Recommended Tyre and Sizes and Inflation Pressures Tyre size designation: 215/55/R16 Rim Code: 6.5J ISO 7.0J ISO Tyre Inflation pressures dependent upon vehicle loading The tyres fitted to this vehicle shall have a maximum load rating not less than 600Kg or a load rating of 90 and a speed category of not less than H. So car specs: Car is BA II Ute XL, build Feb '05 Styleside box with standard suspension 3/4 tonne according to the registration document* cross referenced with the Ford Specs 2505 GVM GVM is 2505 on rego papers - the stickers with VIN and details actually state GVM 2805, but I'm not going to argue that with RMS as it's to my disadvantage - wrong sticker at Ford Factory? I very much doubt Dad had the GVM downrated. Who knows, anyway not vitally important. Ford Doc: Max Front axle loading 1165 kg - same as all the others in the series Max rear axle loading 1380 kg - Alloy wheels comply, rear tyres need to be rated higher for Max load Now on page 4 of the specs it lists the standard wheel/tyre for the XL Styleside box - standard suspension - my car: 215/60/R16 95V - in contrast with the C rated tyres on 1 tonne suspension models Supports my argument that I need appropriate load rated tyres, NOT C rated tyres as it's in the published specs For the XLS styleside box, the tyre and load rating is 215/55/R16 93V - I assume this is because of the slight reduction in rear axle max load being 1260 Kg versus the XL 1380 Kg The wheels/tyres listed as the standard equipment for the XR6/XR6T/XR8 17x8.0, neither the wheel nor the tyre have a specified load rating - that's likely on the Tyre placard The optional 18x8 wheels tyres on the last page for the XR6/XR8 don't list a load rating, I assume also that information comes from the tyre placard. So with all of that said, has anyone for instance put XR6/XR8 wheels tyres on a lesser model, say an XL or XLS and been challenged about it [defect] or otherwise? I'd say there's a grey area if attempting to transplant the XR6/XR8 performance wheels onto 1 tonne rated vehicles, which are carrying heavy loads [full capacity] Lastly does anyone know what the stated load rating [capacity] of the 1 tonne rated Ford optional wheels is? Is it for example cast on the inside of one of the spokes as 1000kg or some such? thanks Glenn |
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