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 Post subject: rebuilding a 4 speed e series transmission
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 9:13 pm 
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i have a spare 4 speed given to me out of a ed xr6 that got the 5 speed conversion, if i wanted to pull it down and rebuild it, is it hard? and also has anyone used the rebuild kits for these transmissions from ebay?

 

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Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 9:33 pm 
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http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Ford-Falcon-EF-E ... 5193a96fca

 

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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 12:39 am 
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It doesn't include the clutch plates or S5

 

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 Post subject: Re: rebuilding a 4 speed e series transmission
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 10:29 am 
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how much are these extra parts?

 

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 Post subject: Re: rebuilding a 4 speed e series transmission
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 11:25 am 
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I had mine rebuilt just recently

These prices are trade prices,

Overhaul kit - genuine $128
Brake band Front - BTR $38
Friction Set - BTR $71
S5 Solenoid - genuine $143
Filter Assembly - BTR $17

That's what is listed on the invoice

Plus you'll need Trans fluid

I got mine done through a mate of mine for a total of $1150

 

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 Post subject: Re: rebuilding a 4 speed e series transmission
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 11:26 am 
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The S5 solenoid and the friction set ARE included in that kit..
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oki doki thanks,

 

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Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 8:58 pm 
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xpvanman wrote:
The S5 solenoid and the friction set ARE included in that kit..


so it would seem that's on ok price for the full kit then?

whats the weak point in these autos when you start to put a bit more power thru them mate?
what is commonly done to beef these autos up a bit?

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Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 3:00 pm 
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I wouldnt have a clue but Ive been reading that they hold up better than the manuals with more power, I just started pulling my transmission apart and ill upload some pics wen I get it all apart to give some people an idea on wat they kook like, mite do a build thread on it

 

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Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 6:55 pm 
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EB/ED btr's are already among the strongest BTR's... rebuild it with an EF/EL/AU pump and run a trans cooler and it should be pretty strong.

EDIT: Most BTR's die because of two things... lack of maintenance and heat, ford should have put a proper transcooler on every single one.

 

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Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 7:46 pm 
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xpvanman wrote:
The S5 solenoid and the friction set ARE included in that kit..


so it would seem that's on ok price for the full kit then?

whats the weak point in these autos when you start to put a bit more power thru them mate?
what is commonly done to beef these autos up a bit?

cheers



That price seems OK. It depends on the quality of it. The better quality gasket,seal & ring kits use Viton instead of rubber for the clutch seals - which is more resistant to heat and doesn't shrink like rubber. Some manufacturers call it a "Taxi pack" kit. Raybestos make good quality friction plates that can handle a fair bit of abuse....But with those Ebay kits, you won't know the quality of it till you buy it. That kit that's listed is for a BTR93 (EF - AU) if you have a BTR85 or 91 (EA-ED) - make sure you get the right G S & R kit to suit your model trans, the valvebody & pump gaskets are different between the models and are not interchangeable.

As a basis for a high performance transmission, the BTR is not very good. They are described as one of the smoothest shifting transmissions ever made, so they are designed to slighty slip between changes to give a smooth shift - which is not good when you throw a heap more HP & torque through them. There is an allen key adjustment at the wire end of the S5, you can screw that in a bit to up the line pressure,but if you go too far, it will bang back through the gears when coasting down.The early planetarys etc are pretty tough if you don't mind the noise + the pumps are strong enough. The later ION93 (BA - onwards) planetarys & pumps are garbage - they used finer teeth to get rid of the geartrain noise, but they are too brittle & blow up EASY..
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Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 8:02 pm 
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xpvanman wrote:
The later ION93 (BA - onwards) planetarys & pumps are garbage - they used finer teeth to get rid of the geartrain noise, but they are too brittle & blow up EASY..
XR6T boxes had the earlier planery gears but the same small pump BTW.

 

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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 12:27 pm 
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Yhis is all good stuff I need to know

 

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