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Ben,
What if one is using an EL ECU to control their EB with BBM, wouldn't the EL resistors be the ones to use? ie p57 for the 18 or 20ohm and p38 for the 5.6ohm. Your shift kit may almost be made redundant now. LOL It's cheap enough to change a resistor though, isn't it. Paul
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Paulmac wrote: The pin numbers used for the EB-ED shift kit seem to be hard to find in this long thread, so I'll post this up to make them easier to find:
The 18 ohm resistor wire goes to pin 57 The 5.6 ohm resistor wire goes to pin 38 You can use a 20ohm resistor instead of the 18ohm to achieve a less harsh but still quick, change. Cheers, Paul well i think ive stuffed up because ive used the 18/pin57 and the 5.6/pin38 on the 94 nc2 lane and it works , firm shift , too firm for full throtle in the wet whats this combo going to do to the box ??????
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I built mine with a switch, so that in normal every day driving the box operates as per factory. I don't know what effect it will have on the box, but also consider the other drivetrain components diff, uni's etc.
Try rebuilding it with different resistors. Use the 1Ohm instead of the 5.6 and see what happens. BenJ
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will do the change and see will post results , i am running el ecu may be making the difference , misses was on board for the wet test and wasnt impressed at seeing both sides of the road , out the windscreen in about one second , i only just cautgh it , got the heart pumping , this mod should get heart foundation tick of approval
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Maaaaate
Never, never ever ever take the missus with you on test runs. BenJ
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xfpaul and Ben,
Paul is running an EL ECU and it's the ECU type that counts not the build date, isn't it?? So, Paul you haven't stuffed up with your resistor setup, for an EL ECU. Anyway both sets of resistors would work, just the harshness or firmness rate alters. With an Eaton M90 puffing away, I'm not surprised you've had it dancing, an earlier post suggests raising the 18ohm resistor OR lowering the 5.6ohm as the way to soften shifts, or both. So try a 20ohm [max. a 22ohm = factory shift I'm told] on p57 and then an incrementally less than 5.6ohm on p38 until you find the combo that works for you. No Ben, an M90 blower is not what you clear the leaves with... Cheers, Paul
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Ok, I need to make a correction here.
Yesterday I got my smartlock bypass module and installed an EL ECU. I drove the car for about 50kms. During that time, after discovering the power/economy switch now works in reverse, I played with my shift kit. I have mine set up with an 18ohm and a 1ohm for the EB ECU. With the shift kit turned on the shifts were much smoother than the standard sport setting. To me this says that with an EF/EL ECU you need the smaller resistor to be 5.6ohms. I have not yet installed a 5.6ohm resistor yet to confirm this, so again I may be misinterpreting things. So my apologies for any incorrect advice I gave from misinterpretation of the documentation I have to hand. Real life experience always shows how things actually work. Happy Shifting BenJ
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hey guys just put one of these shiftkits in my el the other day nd i can say this is 1 of the best mods 4 $10 lol
does anyone no how u can make the shifts firmer? cheers |
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what ohm resisters did you use???
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where is the link to do this mod?mechanicalforums.com isnt around anymore and im interested in making a box and fitting it to my EF 6cyl.any help?PM me the link if possible
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Gidday all
Just a quick update. I have now installed the 5.6Ohm resistor to work with the EL ECU and it works well. I have also used the 20Ohm and the 18Ohm switchable setup. I do find that this is quite harsh and will play with a 22Ohm one for a more refined firm shift. Regards BenJ
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Gidday all
Just a quick update. I have now installed the 5.6Ohm resistor to work with the EL ECU and it works well. I have also used the 20Ohm and the 18Ohm switchable setup. I do find that this is quite harsh and will play with a 22Ohm one for a more refined firm shift. Regards BenJ
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limited wrote: where is the link to do this mod?mechanicalforums.com isnt around anymore and im interested in making a box and fitting it to my EF 6cyl.any help?PM me the link if possible
if you had read a little further, theres a diagram 3 posts down for an EF 6 cyl |
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ive read through the posts, and have the first diagram posted on the site, just wondering about something:
"The pins are labelled, we need pins 71 and 81. From memory 71 is a red one and 81 is a green one. Make sure you get the right ones. Cut the wire from pin 81 about 10cm away from the ecu. Now you need to solder wire 2 to the ecu side of the cut wire, and wire 3 to the other side (transmission side). " so you're making this box part of the circuit and the ECU and TRANS are now connected through this box via pin 81?
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possibly wrong thread but anyhow, thought you might like this info benj , im just about (tomorrow i hope) to by a full plugin wolf3d v500 which controls both engine and auto box , the only reason they havnt released to public is 1-2 shift is hard, well with a bit of reverse enginering of the shift kit, i just might be able to fix this
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