Fordmods Logo

Vibrating Tail Shaft 

 

Page 1 of 2 [ 18 posts ] Go to page 1, 2  Next

 
 Post subject: Vibrating Tail Shaft
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 4:10 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 41

Posts: 2351

Joined: 11th Nov 2004

Gallery: 30 images

Ride: Blown XR8

Location: Melbourne
VIC, Australia

Hey guys,
As the topic suggests i get a huge vibration through the tailshaft on my XR8. This only happens when i hit 180km/h. But its a really bad vibration, you can hear and really feel it. I've noticed that the tailshaft seems to be alloy and really thick, about 3 inches or so.
I've been told this is an AU tailshaft but i'm not 100% sure.
I was wondering what i can do to fix this vibration?
I hardly ever hit that speed anyway, but when i do, its so bad it makes me back right off.

Thanks Dave
Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 4:44 pm 
Technical Contributor
Offline
User avatar

Posts: 2799

Joined: 6th Nov 2004

Gallery: 7 images

Ride: Falcon

Location: Sydney
NSW, Australia

yeah, definately not good lol

Just get the tailshaft balanced, or get a two piece one, balance that. Also make sure that the bolts are all tight. And get some tailshaft loops.



Cheers

 

_________________

;++JustForDimSim++;

Cheap, fast and reliable.. choose 2.

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 6:52 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 38

Posts: 2450

Joined: 5th Nov 2004

Gallery: 1 images

Ride: NL V8 Fairlane

Location: Sydney
NSW, Australia

Mine does the same, cbfed getting it fixed because I rarely reach that speed and won't be near it for a while. Get it balanced, $75 last quote I got.

 

_________________

There are 10 types of people in this world.
Those who know binary and those who don't.

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 7:50 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 39

Posts: 2975

Joined: 5th Nov 2004

Ride: BF Typhoon

Location: Melbourne
VIC, Australia

I can feel a vibration at bout 190-200, not bad enough that i worry, altho at that speed i dont plan to go any further aye.

As drone said, get her balanced n that should get rip of it. Maybe do uni joints n fit tail shaft loop also to be safe..etc

 

_________________

BF Typhoon, Dejavu - 6sp Auto, Leather, Sunroof, 19"s, Electric Pedals, Tint, FPV Sports Wheel, FPV Mats.

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 7:50 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 61

Posts: 4102

Joined: 18th Nov 2004

Gallery: 10 images

Ride: PX2 Ranger 4x4 XLT Dual CAB

Location: Carrum Downs
VIC, Australia

It could be worn uni's, check them also

My EL I6 has a tail shaft as you discribe, mine is a 97 model well before AU.

 

_________________

Image
She's meanness put to music and the b**ch is born to run!
Like the sign says, "speed's just a question of money. How fast can you go?"

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 8:26 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 41

Posts: 2351

Joined: 11th Nov 2004

Gallery: 30 images

Ride: Blown XR8

Location: Melbourne
VIC, Australia

Thanks Guys, i was thinking i would have to get it balanced.
I'm still not sure about the tailshaft though, someone told me its off an AU, but I don;t really have a clue myself.
It just looked way too thick to be stock.

Dave
Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 9:28 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Posts: 474

Joined: 5th Nov 2004

Ride: BA

Location: SYD
NSW, Australia

{USERNAME} wrote:
Just get the tailshaft balanced, or get a two piece one, balance that.


Whats a rough price for a good two-piece set up?
Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 9:46 pm 
Technical Contributor
Offline
User avatar

Posts: 2799

Joined: 6th Nov 2004

Gallery: 7 images

Ride: Falcon

Location: Sydney
NSW, Australia

not sure on the price, but the $75 quote for a balance, sounds about right. That would be step one.


Cheers

 

_________________

;++JustForDimSim++;

Cheap, fast and reliable.. choose 2.

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 8:43 am 
Tyre Shredder
Offline

Age: 59

Posts: 376

Joined: 27th Jan 2005

Gallery: 2 images

Ride: Falcon EL

Location: Bathurst
NSW, Australia

The tailshaft in my EL starts to vibrate at 210kph,have thought of getting it balanced but as I dont do these speeds constantly I coulnt be bothered.
Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 10:21 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 50

Posts: 2705

Joined: 6th Nov 2004

Gallery: 11 images

Ride: 2009 FG XR6 Sedan

Location: Melbourne
VIC, Australia

Its either 3 3/4 or 3 1/4 inch alloy, they have been used since EB (not all models) and are still used now on BA utes and wagons. Would be best to have the shaft straighted before getting it balanced, otherwise it will be perfect at the speed its balanced and if the speed varies so does the balance.
If your going to be constantly doing speeds excessive of 180-200kp/h id go for 3 inch steel but if you want to spend big go for a 2 piece 2.5 inch steel with centre and rear CV instead of uni joints, the diff flange will also have to be replaced. After all that have a full system balance (shaft balanced in car)
Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 4:25 pm 
Fordmods Junkie
Offline
User avatar

Age: 45

Posts: 5051

Joined: 5th Nov 2004

Ride: Kia Rio - 1.4L Auto

Power: 238 rwkw

Location: Westside
VIC, Australia

All EL XR6's and XR8's got an alloy tailshaft to allow for their higher speed limiters than normal.

You wouldnt want to swap it for steel. Alloy is stiffer and lighter, reducing the weight of this spinning shaft, which is why they use alloy and not steel.

There is a place in Sunshine... M & S Driveshafts.. Can do everything there, unis, balancing, straightening if needed. I think its $140 to replace unis and balance, take $50 off if you take the tailshaft into them.

Cost me $180 as mine needed to be straightened as well, which tended to cause some fun vibrations above 130km/h.
Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 5:29 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 50

Posts: 2705

Joined: 6th Nov 2004

Gallery: 11 images

Ride: 2009 FG XR6 Sedan

Location: Melbourne
VIC, Australia

$140 to replace both unis and balance!!! thats what 2 unis cost from ford but they are original spicers, i get them alot cheaper tho. i know first hand that steel is stronger than alloy as we test the ford shafts where i work. if the shafts is straightened and balanced properly there will be minimal flex and vibration at high speeds. in the end its what you want to spend. if you need help drop me a line.
Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 11:07 am 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Posts: 474

Joined: 5th Nov 2004

Ride: BA

Location: SYD
NSW, Australia

{USERNAME} wrote:
if you need help drop me a line.


{USERNAME} wrote:
Whats a rough price for a good two-piece set up?
Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 11:11 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 92

Posts: 1088

Joined: 30th Jan 2005

Gallery: 16 images

Ride: F350

Location: Brisbane
QLD, Australia

Guys,

I have been through all of this in the past, and bet that you are all experiencing the problem in auto cars. The manual cars do vibate a little, just not enough to warrant enough concern, well that is my opinion anyway.
With my ELXR8, I had 4 auto boxes rebuilt under warranty. I was constantly taking it back to Ford, and complaining about the vibration.
If you get to the speed that the vibration starts, knock the auto into neutral and see what I mean. Its basically the case heating up, and all startin to move.
A two piece shaft helps, but sustained high speed running brings the vibration on......

good luck
Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 2:36 am 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 38

Posts: 2450

Joined: 5th Nov 2004

Gallery: 1 images

Ride: NL V8 Fairlane

Location: Sydney
NSW, Australia

That makes sense actually.. My uncle always told me that the reason the limiter is there is that the auto boxes aren't built to keep up with such speeds.

 

_________________

There are 10 types of people in this world.
Those who know binary and those who don't.

Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:
Sort by  
 Page 1 of 2  [ 18 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot] and 34 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

 

 

It is currently Mon Dec 23, 2024 10:12 am All times are UTC + 11 hours

 

 

(c)2014 Total Web Solutions Australia - Australian Web Hosting and Domain Names