Fordmods Logo

What are the tell tale signs that the diff is stuffed? 

 

Page 1 of 2 [ 22 posts ] Go to page 1, 2  Next

 
 Post subject: What are the tell tale signs that the diff is stuffed?
Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:19 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 37

Posts: 1149

Joined: 15th Apr 2009

Gallery: 22 images

Ride: 2013 Ford Focus ST

Power: 175 rwkw

Location: North West Sydney
NSW, Australia

Hey guys

Coming home tonight i turned right into my street at normal speed and all of sudden then was an almighty bang like i had hit something really hard or bottomed out the car into a pothole real bad. I pulled over immediately had a look around and couldnt see anything wrong. I got back into the car and crawled it home at 20km/h coz there is a constant thudd thudd thudd from the rear of the car that you can hear and feel.

It still shifts into reverse and drive all fine but there is this bad thudd noise. my inner left cv joint seal was stuffed for 2 weeks and leaked diff oil but i got that fixed on thursday and the oil refilled (took about 800ml). Could it not have had enough oil in it so therefore wore it out quicker and it just happened to let go as i turned a corner? What else might it be, there is nothing in tyres and i dont think anything is caught up in the brake caliper. The fact that it made this massive bang noise is worrying.

Thanks in advance for the info

Cheers
Phil

 

_________________

I hate arriving at my destination as then I have to get out of my car!

New Build Thread
the-garage-f53/the-beast-v2-0-phil-s-2013-ford-focus-st-t122703.html

Old Build Thread
the-garage-f53/phil-s-bf-sr-gt-build-thread-lots-of-pics-t98705.html

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: What are the tell tale signs that the diff is stuffed?
Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:28 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline

Age: 48

Posts: 4604

Joined: 23rd Nov 2006

Gallery: 4 images

Ride: 5.0 AU's and 5.0 Maverick

Power: 139 rwkw

Location: Sydney West
NSW, Australia

Cradle bolt?

 

_________________

xr6turnip wrote:
More people paid for a ride in a VT commodore then an AU Falcon so the VT is superior.
Based on that fact my Mum is the best around!

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: What are the tell tale signs that the diff is stuffed?
Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:29 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 37

Posts: 1507

Joined: 14th Aug 2009

Gallery: 12 images

Ride: BA XT V8

Location: Gosnells, Perth
WA, Australia

probly jack it up and have a look. moove things around to try replicate a thud with ya hands by turning the wheels.
i would say if it was the diff that went bang then there would be no drive.
could be the drive shaft itself?

 

_________________

BA XT V8. Ice Mint. 18" Speedys. XR6T LSD. Full Pacemaker twin 2 1/2inch Stainless Steel system. Custom CAI. Black XR interior with white trimming. Powerbond underdrive kit 25%.
13.65@102mph. 2800 hi-Stall.
230RWKW@5250 rpm. 625NM.

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: What are the tell tale signs that the diff is stuffed?
Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:35 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 37

Posts: 1149

Joined: 15th Apr 2009

Gallery: 22 images

Ride: 2013 Ford Focus ST

Power: 175 rwkw

Location: North West Sydney
NSW, Australia

hmmm i had a look under it and all seemed to be ok and in the right place. Ill try jack it up with the hand brake off to spin the wheels but it does take a lil bit of speed before i can hear it, like rolling along in idle there is no noise but accelerating to about 20 or so i can here the thudd then

 

_________________

I hate arriving at my destination as then I have to get out of my car!

New Build Thread
the-garage-f53/the-beast-v2-0-phil-s-2013-ford-focus-st-t122703.html

Old Build Thread
the-garage-f53/phil-s-bf-sr-gt-build-thread-lots-of-pics-t98705.html

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: What are the tell tale signs that the diff is stuffed?
Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 12:18 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline

Posts: 890

Joined: 1st Apr 2005

Gallery: 4 images

Ride: EF XR6 Wagon, AU2 XR6 VCT

Power: 148 rwkw

Location: Auckland
New Zealand

The one time I wrecked a diff (I was 17), I sheared a few teeth off. It made an almighty bang going around a corner. After that, it would slip slightly (due to the missing teeth) then thud regularly as I was driving. Took the rear cover off the diff and scooped out a small pile of gear teeth and fragments. I couldn't really complain, as the diff was just getting me back for all the abuse I had given it. :oops:

 

_________________

95 EF XR6 wagon, 17" FTRs, DBA rotors, KYB/Koni, AU bottom end, ported EF head, backcut valves, SS Inductions, Territory intake, 10.2 CR, Auckland 1258 cam, vernier gear, PH4480 headers, no cat, Tickford 2.5", 2800rpm stall, J3 chip

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: What are the tell tale signs that the diff is stuffed?
Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 1:00 pm 
NSW Cruise Moderator
Offline
User avatar

Age: 46

Posts: 7338

Joined: 5th Nov 2004

Gallery: 12 images

Ride: TE50

Location: ɹǝpun uʍop
NSW, Australia

sounds like a broken crown wheel tooth, only showing up when there is load on the diff, is a common diagnosis for an uncommon problem. I doubt low oil for a bit caused the issue, but I don't think it helped it either. You won't know till you pull the cover.

 

_________________

Image

I have a car.

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: What are the tell tale signs that the diff is stuffed?
Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 1:46 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 37

Posts: 1149

Joined: 15th Apr 2009

Gallery: 22 images

Ride: 2013 Ford Focus ST

Power: 175 rwkw

Location: North West Sydney
NSW, Australia

Thanks efxr6wagon and Dave, sounds exactly like what happened. My mech should come round tomorrow and listen to it to confirm.You think I should drive it to my mechs shop or get it towed (shop prolly only 15km away) Will it do more damage to other parts of the car driving it?

Cheers
Phil

 

_________________

I hate arriving at my destination as then I have to get out of my car!

New Build Thread
the-garage-f53/the-beast-v2-0-phil-s-2013-ford-focus-st-t122703.html

Old Build Thread
the-garage-f53/phil-s-bf-sr-gt-build-thread-lots-of-pics-t98705.html

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: What are the tell tale signs that the diff is stuffed?
Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 1:50 pm 
Parts Gopher
Offline
User avatar

Age: 30

Posts: 86

Joined: 20th Oct 2011

Gallery: 6 images

Ride: EF, EL falcon, au futra

Location: Bairnsdale
VIC, Australia

phil545 wrote:
Thanks efxr6wagon and Dave, sounds exactly like what happened. My mech should come round tomorrow and listen to it to confirm.You think I should drive it to my mechs shop or get it towed (shop prolly only 15km away) Will it do more damage to other parts of the car driving it?

Cheers
Phil

yea its posiable but it still depends wat it is

 

_________________

EL Falcon, sitting on sl king springs & 18" silver agents, pacemaker extractors with 2.5'' sports exhurst, nf fairlane interior, 5 speed manual with a 3.45 lsd and lots more rkw:
EF Falcon stock standard
ford au furtura the daily

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: What are the tell tale signs that the diff is stuffed?
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:23 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 37

Posts: 1149

Joined: 15th Apr 2009

Gallery: 22 images

Ride: 2013 Ford Focus ST

Power: 175 rwkw

Location: North West Sydney
NSW, Australia

Just an update, originally thought it was my inner cv joint on the left side had popped out again but my mech got it onto the hoist and turns out the diff is stuffed (I did drive it about 15km at 60 and it just thudded along lol) Anyways i looked into 4.11 and LSD but it all ended up being too expensive as I needed to change drive and tailshafts and other s**t.

I just ordered a XR6 diff from FTG so hopefully my mech should have that by Thursday morning and can get it fitted up by the weekend. It will pickup a little bit being a 3.45 diff as i currently have the XT (3.23) diff so looking forward to that. I will take it easy till i can get it down to Joe to remap the trans so the shift points are proper!

 

_________________

I hate arriving at my destination as then I have to get out of my car!

New Build Thread
the-garage-f53/the-beast-v2-0-phil-s-2013-ford-focus-st-t122703.html

Old Build Thread
the-garage-f53/phil-s-bf-sr-gt-build-thread-lots-of-pics-t98705.html

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: What are the tell tale signs that the diff is stuffed?
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:28 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline

Posts: 890

Joined: 1st Apr 2005

Gallery: 4 images

Ride: EF XR6 Wagon, AU2 XR6 VCT

Power: 148 rwkw

Location: Auckland
New Zealand

Do shift points need to be remapped? I thought shift points were based on engine RPM, not vehicle speed.

 

_________________

95 EF XR6 wagon, 17" FTRs, DBA rotors, KYB/Koni, AU bottom end, ported EF head, backcut valves, SS Inductions, Territory intake, 10.2 CR, Auckland 1258 cam, vernier gear, PH4480 headers, no cat, Tickford 2.5", 2800rpm stall, J3 chip

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: What are the tell tale signs that the diff is stuffed?
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:45 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 37

Posts: 1149

Joined: 15th Apr 2009

Gallery: 22 images

Ride: 2013 Ford Focus ST

Power: 175 rwkw

Location: North West Sydney
NSW, Australia

Apparently they do. The wrecker said I could probably get away with it as I wasnt doing a huge diff ratio difference but if i went anything higher then i would however my tuner said for the best performance best to remap the tranny to the new diff ratio. Its not a lot of work and i already had it tuned with him so have the xcal 3 device so may as well get it done.

 

_________________

I hate arriving at my destination as then I have to get out of my car!

New Build Thread
the-garage-f53/the-beast-v2-0-phil-s-2013-ford-focus-st-t122703.html

Old Build Thread
the-garage-f53/phil-s-bf-sr-gt-build-thread-lots-of-pics-t98705.html

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: What are the tell tale signs that the diff is stuffed?
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 5:06 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 37

Posts: 1507

Joined: 14th Aug 2009

Gallery: 12 images

Ride: BA XT V8

Location: Gosnells, Perth
WA, Australia

mine went from 3.23 to 3.45 and yes it has to be tuned otherise under heavy / wot it smashes the limiter bfore changing and isnt very comfortable or good for racing.

 

_________________

BA XT V8. Ice Mint. 18" Speedys. XR6T LSD. Full Pacemaker twin 2 1/2inch Stainless Steel system. Custom CAI. Black XR interior with white trimming. Powerbond underdrive kit 25%.
13.65@102mph. 2800 hi-Stall.
230RWKW@5250 rpm. 625NM.

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: What are the tell tale signs that the diff is stuffed?
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 7:25 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 37

Posts: 1149

Joined: 15th Apr 2009

Gallery: 22 images

Ride: 2013 Ford Focus ST

Power: 175 rwkw

Location: North West Sydney
NSW, Australia

ahhh perfect thanks for confirming mate, cant wait to get my car back!

 

_________________

I hate arriving at my destination as then I have to get out of my car!

New Build Thread
the-garage-f53/the-beast-v2-0-phil-s-2013-ford-focus-st-t122703.html

Old Build Thread
the-garage-f53/phil-s-bf-sr-gt-build-thread-lots-of-pics-t98705.html

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: What are the tell tale signs that the diff is stuffed?
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:50 am 
Getting Side Ways
Offline

Age: 33

Posts: 1472

Joined: 11th Jan 2011

Gallery: 5 images

Ride: Vixen Red 09 FG XT

Location: Dalby
QLD, Australia

You can't do 4.11 diff gears ): I had a place here quote me 1600 to drive in, change the gears and bearings and drive out.

how much was the xr6 diff from ftg?

 

_________________

VIXEN FG XT Previous best - 14.431 @ 99.69mph with minor mods
Currently 14.235 @ 101mph same mods. Bring on the 13's!

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: What are the tell tale signs that the diff is stuffed?
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:18 am 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 37

Posts: 1149

Joined: 15th Apr 2009

Gallery: 22 images

Ride: 2013 Ford Focus ST

Power: 175 rwkw

Location: North West Sydney
NSW, Australia

hey mate, you can, they come from a M86 territory diff but in order to fit the m86 you need to change driveshaft and other s**t to make it work (all too expensive). The converter places which will use aftermarket gears and stuff to make 4.11 fit inside the M80 (which is what i got) but best to fit a lsd if going with a short ratio like that otherwise ull b single pegging it everywhere (it was all too hard for me in the end and i just want my car back lol)

I went with the single pegger xr6 diff off a car that had 89k on the clock, FTG charged me $450 and $60 for delivery which I thought was pretty good :-) Should hopefully have the car back by the weekend

 

_________________

I hate arriving at my destination as then I have to get out of my car!

New Build Thread
the-garage-f53/the-beast-v2-0-phil-s-2013-ford-focus-st-t122703.html

Old Build Thread
the-garage-f53/phil-s-bf-sr-gt-build-thread-lots-of-pics-t98705.html

Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:
Sort by  
 Page 1 of 2  [ 22 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 8 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum
cron

 

 

It is currently Sat Nov 16, 2024 11:36 pm All times are UTC + 11 hours

 

 

(c)2014 Total Web Solutions Australia - Australian Web Hosting and Domain Names