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Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 9:31 pm 
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thing sounds like it drives real well. good to see your project finally working in a good way

 

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 Post subject: Re: ZF Auto - "Flappy Paddles"
Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 10:11 pm 
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if you can make a design for the btr 4speeds that holds in gear put my name down for it :D
i imagine the interst for it would be huge especially if you could eliminate kickback... pisses me off
even if you could point me in the right direction of how to do it :lol:

nicely finished car btw

 

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 Post subject: Re: ZF Auto - "Flappy Paddles"
Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 10:51 pm 
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All I'm doing is 'relocating' the existing sequential mode shifter to the steering wheel. It can't do anything the car couldn't already do.

So for E-series and AU's without the sequential mode, this won't help.

edit: And as far as I know, the only way to prevent kick down, is with a fully manualised valve body, then it's manual all the time, no electronics to do it.

 

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 Post subject: Re: ZF Auto - "Flappy Paddles"
Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 8:20 am 
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i see
i was considering full manual valve bodys but i couldnt find any made for this box

 

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 Post subject: Re: ZF Auto - "Flappy Paddles"
Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 9:45 am 
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The reason you can't find a full manual valve body is because the BTR 4spd is an electronically controlled box, not hydraulic and as such a manual valve body cannot be made`

 

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Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 11:14 am 
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so theres no way to manualise the btr

 

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 Post subject: Re: ZF Auto - "Flappy Paddles"
Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 11:23 am 
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at this point in time, No.

 

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 Post subject: Re: ZF Auto - "Flappy Paddles"
Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 2:37 pm 
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I popped open the case of a cruise switch just today and took a bunch of pics. One of the first things that came to mind, though, was how much room there is at either end of the case, and how simple it might be to add flappy-paddles with the switches INSIDE the button casings, ready to integrate directly into the single-line resistance-descriminated solution that Data_Mine is assembling.

So i thought I'd whip up a conceptual pic to see if it would work. Things might be a little tight, and such things as what materials to use, how to bump-stop the paddle, finding the right switch to use etc are still up for debate. But it looks like it might be possible....


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 Post subject: Re: ZF Auto - "Flappy Paddles"
Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:15 pm 
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Nice find Luke. I chickened out on pulling mine apart, seemed like breaking point was near.

But that's not too bad an idea. I'll have to investigate further.

 

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 Post subject: Re: ZF Auto - "Flappy Paddles"
Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:53 pm 
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Yeah, there was a real gotcha to getting them apart - and the clue was in those 2 holes on either side. I had to reach it with a small screwdriver and push in the right spot - which detents the clip and lets it come forward. Knowing how tricky it is, I took a few pics.

Let me know if you want pics sent, or if they should be posted here.


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 Post subject: Re: ZF Auto - "Flappy Paddles"
Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 11:01 am 
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Good news. PCBs are on their way.

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I guess I'd better start component shopping, and loom making.

 

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 Post subject: Re: ZF Auto - "Flappy Paddles"
Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 4:05 pm 
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Good work. Have been telling every bugger I meet with a compatible system about this, and although a few people raise their eyebrows and a few others look interested, I've yet to secure anyones money for you!
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Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 4:20 pm 
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Thanks fiend,

I'm not taking orders yet, these are still prototypes, once they're build/tested* and costings worked out I'll make an annoucement of availability.

Thus far I'm just keeping people informed.


*There'll be me, and one other doing testing as I'm getting 2 PCBs.

 

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 Post subject: Re: ZF Auto - "Flappy Paddles"
Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 4:27 pm 
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Was only a turn of phrase mate... I wouldn't be taking money, but have been sending them onto this thread. Just don't think me saying "do a search on FORDMODS.COM for flappy paddles" is all that effective. Especially when the search function is MIA.
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 Post subject: Re: ZF Auto - "Flappy Paddles"
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 4:59 pm 
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can someone tell me how to open up the BA switches? I got the buttons off but cant get the case open????!!!
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