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dc_todd wrote: Rubber always seems to be badly overlooked. huge gains can be had in handling with QUALITY rubber, leaving your suspension to worry more about ride quality. one should complement the other. no point going good suspension setup and leaving s**t rubber on there. Exactly. You don't even need to always step up in width. There's a common misconception that width is the be all and end all in what determines the grip, better tyres in my opinion make for more of a difference (even if the same width). If you move from 205 to 245 but still run el s**t tyres you'll find that not much will have improved. With that said I buy the cheap tyres for my rear and good ones for the front (as a good set of tyres will make the brakes work a lot better too), I find it funner that way, and it helps look after the driveline by having the tyres willing to spin - diffs and gearboxes last longer this way. |
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I must admit it'd be nice to have in the wet weather, to help get out the driveway, I'm curious though, do you require extra lines run to the diff?
and any idea how hard it'd be to add to an au2 falcon?
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I have to put my 2c in. The Firestone Firehawks are an awsome tyre. After my cheap a$$ Nexen tyres let me down (4 lane drift in the wet, not intentional at 50kph) I lashed out 179 a tire fitted 225x45x17?? i think, and traction is awsome. Yeah they spin in the wet (all the way thorugh 3rd if i want) but they are fantastic if you keep a clear head and dont gas it too much. But very controllable when spinning. I also run a mini spool and the Nexens on the back lasted 12 months without a standstill skid done on em. The Firestones have been on 6months now and sitting at about 80% tread.
It has been said, Traction control is in your right foot and your mind! |
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Do you have an LSD or single spinner?
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locked diff with 3.9s, its in his sig.
With 205 15s, I literally couldnt use first or 2nd gear the other week in the rain, it was basically 3rd gear just after the car got rolling, with sfa throttle. I got into 4th gear on the spot with no brakes with the 205s, 3.45LSD (manual). bit of a handful once it got moving though... Compared to my 235/17s, the difference is scary. The 15s are Pirellis, the 17s are Dunlops IIRC, so neither are cheap rubbish. So in short, TC is for pussies. |
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krisisdog wrote: locked diff with 3.9s, its in his sig. With 205 15s, I literally couldnt use first or 2nd gear the other week in the rain, it was basically 3rd gear just after the car got rolling, with sfa throttle. I got into 4th gear on the spot with no brakes with the 205s, 3.45LSD (manual). bit of a handful once it got moving though... Compared to my 235/17s, the difference is scary. The 15s are Pirellis, the 17s are Dunlops IIRC, so neither are cheap rubbish. So in short, TC is for pussies. I see nothing in GeZza200 signature about what diff he is running. Both Pirelli and Dunlop both make a wide variety of different model tyres - while both brands are considered decent, there is still a drastic difference between their base models and high end, comparing just on brand new is absolutely worthless. Also rubber hardens with age which makes it less grippy. I'm assuming that your 15"'s have probably been sitting around for sometime in the shed or whereever not being used while you had the 17"'s on the vehicle... |
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i got the 3.08 diff but it has been shimmed up, so both wheels spin.
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twr7cx wrote: I see nothing in GeZza200 signature about what diff he is running. Both Pirelli and Dunlop both make a wide variety of different model tyres - while both brands are considered decent, there is still a drastic difference between their base models and high end, comparing just on brand new is absolutely worthless. Also rubber hardens with age which makes it less grippy. I'm assuming that your 15"'s have probably been sitting around for sometime in the shed or whereever not being used while you had the 17"'s on the vehicle... I thought you were talking to izedso, my bad. As for the tyres going hard, theyre not that old, about a year or so, 17s are a touch older. Pirelli's are P5 or 6000, Dunlops are SP SPORT 3000A - the first 17" tyre designed for speeds up to 270kmhr in Aus. |
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