use guys are champs for the replys
ill try with jacking the engine up and retighting the mount bolts see if that does do any thing

cjh you have heaps more clearance now im wondering if maybe my extractors a bent but how could they? if jacking the engine does not work im going to have to take the extractors of and im just going to dent them in were there hitting about 3 or 4 mm should do it.

cheers fellas fingers crossed for Saturday