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 Post subject: Re: au head gasket trouble
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 3:53 pm 
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well thats what i got told mate if thats wrong then whats right?
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 Post subject: Re: au head gasket trouble
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 4:14 pm 
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All E/A series head bolts are Torque to Yield bolts...

They are NOT supposed to be torqued to their full tension.. I have the instructions for my mls gasket here somewhere.... here we go..

It says to torque all head bolts to 30mn/23lbf.ft and then turn them a further 120 degrees to reach full tension.

From memory the instructions for the bolts I had said 130 degrees so I went with that instead but you get the idea.

I torqued all the bolts to 30mn and then marked the heads of the bolts in line with the block.... then used the protractor to get 130 degrees and did it... (look at the head bolts in the photo)

since mine worked without block decking and yours failed with it.... I'm inclined to think my way was better. :-)

As for the radiator treatment.. don't use the flaky stuff as it's cr@p.. get the one I mentioned before with the tiny metallic bronze metal balls in it. It won't clog up your radiator and it lasts for years...

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 Post subject: Re: au head gasket trouble
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 4:17 pm 
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thanks for that will do it again now ive got the propper settings will give your way a go :roll:
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 Post subject: Re: au head gasket trouble
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 4:55 pm 
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Don't forget the Blue Hydromar spray... that stuff is magic.. supercheap sells it.

my head was corroded and pitted in some areas and I only half expected it to work but it's been flawless......
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 Post subject: Re: au head gasket trouble
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 5:23 pm 
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You didn't touch the face of the gasket with greasy fingers did you?

 

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 Post subject: Re: au head gasket trouble
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 5:46 pm 
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I posted this in "fiend's" garage thread, but think it's more appropriate in here...

All this talk about tourque has got me paranoid.. without checking what the missus was looking at, I somehow got the idea that 60ft pounds was about 40nm... So we torqued up my headbolts on my ED head fitted with AU gasket to 60ft/pounds + 0 degrees so far...

Have we fk'd something up.. now know that as confirmed on http://www.thetoolhut.com/Torque-Conver ... etric.html 30nm is 23ft pounds, or 40nm is 30ft pounds. Please tell me I don't have to get new bolts and another AU gasket..

 

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 Post subject: Re: au head gasket trouble
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 6:27 pm 
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According to this site:

http://www.convert-me.com/en/convert/torque

60 ft lbs is 81.35 nm....

tiny bit to far dude. :-)
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 Post subject: Re: au head gasket trouble
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 7:39 pm 
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Another tip
dont polish the block the block and head are suposed to have a degree of roughness to help hold the gasket, if it is too smoothe it can move and leak
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Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 8:31 pm 
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frankieh wrote:
According to this site:

http://www.convert-me.com/en/convert/torque

60 ft lbs is 81.35 nm....

tiny bit to far dude. :-)


Damn it. Should I invest in another gasket and bolts?

 

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 Post subject: Re: au head gasket trouble
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 12:40 am 
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the gaskit kit comes with the head bolt torque settings (if it doesnt then call ford and find out or consult a manual)

safest bet is to remove head and fit another gaskit and NEW head bolts torqued correctly...

 

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Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 12:48 am 
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locknut wrote:
frankieh wrote:
According to this site:

http://www.convert-me.com/en/convert/torque

60 ft lbs is 81.35 nm....

tiny bit to far dude. :-)


Damn it. Should I invest in another gasket and bolts?


whoops lol...... when i helped PIMP_LTD fit his AU gasket with the torque+degrees method we checked one of the headbolts to see what torque they ended up with and it was 80nm
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Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:53 am 
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I got some more headbolts.. going to take the head off again, as I want attempt number #890475 of trying to fit the timing case will be this weekend, so the easier the better.

 

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 Post subject: Re: au head gasket trouble
Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 1:26 pm 
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Just wanted to make sure au head gasket 30nm + 120 degrees is that the right torque setting?
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Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 1:54 pm 
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eb xr6 falcon wrote:
Just wanted to make sure au head gasket 30nm + 120 degrees is that the right torque setting?



correct.

Dont forget RTV blue around the timing cover.

 

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 Post subject: Re: au head gasket trouble
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thanks heaps mate :D :D :D
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