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 Post subject: EL twin caliper front brakes, AU calipers
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 11:24 pm 
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hello does anyone know if you can interchange Au2 twin caliper front brakes to suit el, has anyone fit the au uprights to suit el etc...

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 Post subject: Re: EL twin caliper front brakes, AU calipers
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:30 am 
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If I'm not mistaken, the Au2 calipers are designed to run on a larger disc than the EL's, so they wouldn't fit over the disc correctly, if they even bolted onto the stub axel, which I don't believe that they will.

Brake conversion kits for EA-EL all have modified stubs with adapter brackets to bolt the twin piston calipers & larger discs.

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 Post subject: Re: EL twin caliper front brakes, AU calipers
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 10:01 am 
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Stub axles are TOTALLY different and the calipers will NOT bolt to the existing stub axles on and EL.
It IS possible to change over to an AU front end but would be LOTS of time swearing and expense, would be better to just buy an AU II.
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Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 10:21 am 
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Race Brakes Sydney's front brake package I believe uses AU front calipers (PBR C5) with modified uprights.

 

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Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:05 pm 
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I still think that a kit could be assembled using the AUII stub axles and upper arms with custom cast lower arms and radius rods.

 

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 Post subject: Re: EL twin caliper front brakes, AU calipers
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:20 pm 
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ok yeah cheers, ive seen the bigger brake kit on ebay, just wondering if anyone has fitted the au stub axle / up right to a el, thanks all
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Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:27 pm 
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I still think that a kit could be assembled using the AUII stub axles and upper arms with custom cast lower arms and radius rods.

yeah, but it's really easy to type "custom cast lower arms", it's infinitely harder to actually get it done.
the easiest way would be tubular V8 supercar style lower arms, but you'd be hardpressed to get that engineered i reckons.
would probably be some hoop jumping to get any custom control arm engineered really, i would bet a dollar that an engineer is either going to want to force test the part or want FEA analysis, or both...

 

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Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:43 pm 
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Steady ED wrote:
knowsfords wrote:
I still think that a kit could be assembled using the AUII stub axles and upper arms with custom cast lower arms and radius rods.

yeah, but it's really easy to type "custom cast lower arms", it's infinitely harder to actually get it done.
the easiest way would be tubular V8 supercar style lower arms, but you'd be hardpressed to get that engineered i reckons.
would probably be some hoop jumping to get any custom control arm engineered really, i would bet a dollar that an engineer is either going to want to force test the part or want FEA analysis, or both...


Yep, you pretty much have to get on your knees and swallow. Unless you are going to mass produce is cheaper to buy an already made kit.

Although in saying that how hard are the RBS/RBM/ebay kits to get engineered (or a mod plate for etc) for anyone whose got them?

 

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 Post subject: Re: EL twin caliper front brakes, AU calipers
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 6:16 pm 
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Steady ED wrote:
knowsfords wrote:
I still think that a kit could be assembled using the AUII stub axles and upper arms with custom cast lower arms and radius rods.

yeah, but it's really easy to type "custom cast lower arms", it's infinitely harder to actually get it done.
the easiest way would be tubular V8 supercar style lower arms, but you'd be hardpressed to get that engineered i reckons.
would probably be some hoop jumping to get any custom control arm engineered really, i would bet a dollar that an engineer is either going to want to force test the part or want FEA analysis, or both...



Yep, thats pretty much exactly why I haven't bothered... someone would need to do R&D, then any testing, any revisions, more testing and then mass production. Not cheap.

 

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knowsfords wrote:
Steady ED wrote:
knowsfords wrote:
I still think that a kit could be assembled using the AUII stub axles and upper arms with custom cast lower arms and radius rods.

yeah, but it's really easy to type "custom cast lower arms", it's infinitely harder to actually get it done.
the easiest way would be tubular V8 supercar style lower arms, but you'd be hardpressed to get that engineered i reckons.
would probably be some hoop jumping to get any custom control arm engineered really, i would bet a dollar that an engineer is either going to want to force test the part or want FEA analysis, or both...



Yep, thats pretty much exactly why I haven't bothered... someone would need to do R&D, then any testing, any revisions, more testing and then mass production. Not cheap.

Someone HAS done the R&D and is trying to find someone to machine the parts.

 

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Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 7:00 pm 
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knowsfords wrote:
Steady ED wrote:
knowsfords wrote:
I still think that a kit could be assembled using the AUII stub axles and upper arms with custom cast lower arms and radius rods.

yeah, but it's really easy to type "custom cast lower arms", it's infinitely harder to actually get it done.
the easiest way would be tubular V8 supercar style lower arms, but you'd be hardpressed to get that engineered i reckons.
would probably be some hoop jumping to get any custom control arm engineered really, i would bet a dollar that an engineer is either going to want to force test the part or want FEA analysis, or both...



Yep, thats pretty much exactly why I haven't bothered... someone would need to do R&D, then any testing, any revisions, more testing and then mass production. Not cheap.

Someone HAS done the R&D and is trying to find someone to machine the parts.


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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:40 am 
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I wouldn't be dancing until he finds a cost effective way to produce.

 

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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 11:05 am 
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All u have to do to get the twin spot AU caliper on a EF/EL is to mod the upright which is basically just machining down the two hooks where the current caliper sits. Then make up a kidney plate to suit new caliper and braided lines.

I do believe that u will be more prone to having warped disks with the twin spot caliper if you use cheap quality disk rotor.

 

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