Fordmods Logo

Stronger valve springs for AU 302W 

 

Page 1 of 1 [ 13 posts ] 

 
 Post subject: Stronger valve springs for AU 302W
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 10:38 pm 
Stock as a Rock
Offline
User avatar

Age: 63

Posts: 108

Joined: 4th Mar 2011

Gallery: 6 images

Ride: au1 V8 1 tonne poverty pac ute

Location: Brisbane
QLD, Australia

Hi, It seems I have a noisy valve train in my au 302 when the revs start getting up around 4000, I have installed a cam out of an el gt which has a bit more lift and got rid of the 1.6 rockers and bolted on some yella terra 1.7 roller rockers, can anyone advise me what springs that would be better suited, thanks

 

_________________

Don't force it, use a Bigger hammer

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: Stronger valve springs for AU 302W
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:52 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline

Age: 45

Posts: 1329

Joined: 5th Nov 2004

Ride: 66 Coupe

Location: Perth
WA, Australia

how much preload on the lifters with those rockers and that cam? youu push rods might be slightly short which will give you noise
Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: Stronger valve springs for AU 302W
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 12:10 am 
Stock as a Rock
Offline
User avatar

Age: 63

Posts: 108

Joined: 4th Mar 2011

Gallery: 6 images

Ride: au1 V8 1 tonne poverty pac ute

Location: Brisbane
QLD, Australia

When I was running the standard 1.6 rockers there was no noise at all. how do I check the preload?

 

_________________

Don't force it, use a Bigger hammer

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: Stronger valve springs for AU 302W
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 8:20 am 
Stock as a Rock
Offline

Age: 58

Posts: 158

Joined: 25th Dec 2010

Ride: 1995 EF Falcon

Location: Adelaide
SA, Australia

i thought you had to use a longer valve stem with those rockers.. correct me if im wrong i might be mixed up with something else.

 

_________________

South Australia.. Heaps good.

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: Stronger valve springs for AU 302W
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:17 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline

Posts: 700

Joined: 1st Jan 2006

Ride: Lots, all Fords

Location: Hamilton
New Zealand

Why do you waste peoples time by starting multiple threads on the same issue?

 

_________________

XA Faimont 351C, AU2 XR8 Manual 5.0, DA LTD 5.0, Mk1 Capri 5.0, 1995 Mustang 5.0, EF2 XR8 Manual, EF2 Fairmont Ghia 5.0, AU3 XR8 Auto, AU2 XR8 Auto, AU2 XR8 Manual Ute, TE Cortina 5.0 Manual, DU LTD 5.0 soon to be manual

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: Stronger valve springs for AU 302W
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 8:14 pm 
Stock as a Rock
Offline
User avatar

Age: 63

Posts: 108

Joined: 4th Mar 2011

Gallery: 6 images

Ride: au1 V8 1 tonne poverty pac ute

Location: Brisbane
QLD, Australia

{USERNAME} wrote:
Why do you waste peoples time by starting multiple threads on the same issue?

First off , basically got an answer for the first thread,
2nd, If I ask the question as the subject, most likely to get an answer to it, just wanna know about some springs
3rd If you dont know what I am after or where I can get it in Australia don't waste your time and answer, its only a forum not a court case.

 

_________________

Don't force it, use a Bigger hammer

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: Stronger valve springs for AU 302W
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 8:16 pm 
Stock as a Rock
Offline
User avatar

Age: 63

Posts: 108

Joined: 4th Mar 2011

Gallery: 6 images

Ride: au1 V8 1 tonne poverty pac ute

Location: Brisbane
QLD, Australia

{USERNAME} wrote:
i thought you had to use a longer valve stem with those rockers.. correct me if im wrong i might be mixed up with something else.

The rockers are made to suit a 302 & supposed to be a straight changeover.

 

_________________

Don't force it, use a Bigger hammer

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: Stronger valve springs for AU 302W
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:25 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline

Age: 45

Posts: 1329

Joined: 5th Nov 2004

Ride: 66 Coupe

Location: Perth
WA, Australia

you will need to check your lifter preload, and use that info to determine whether the pushrods are of correct length, if they are not, then you will need to determine what length rods you need and change them over.
Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: Stronger valve springs for AU 302W
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:30 pm 
Stock as a Rock
Offline
User avatar

Age: 63

Posts: 108

Joined: 4th Mar 2011

Gallery: 6 images

Ride: au1 V8 1 tonne poverty pac ute

Location: Brisbane
QLD, Australia

{USERNAME} wrote:
you will need to check your lifter preload, and use that info to determine whether the pushrods are of correct length, if they are not, then you will need to determine what length rods you need and change them over.

Thanks, am I correct in saying that the lifter preload is the gap between the valve and the rocker when the valve is closed and before the rocker applies any pressure on it ?

 

_________________

Don't force it, use a Bigger hammer

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: Stronger valve springs for AU 302W
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:19 am 
Getting Side Ways
Offline

Age: 45

Posts: 1329

Joined: 5th Nov 2004

Ride: 66 Coupe

Location: Perth
WA, Australia

lifter preload is how far down the push rod goes into the lifter on the base of the cam when tightning the rocker bolts down, check both intake and exhaust and both banks as they could differ
Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: Stronger valve springs for AU 302W
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 2:20 pm 
Stock as a Rock
Offline
User avatar

Age: 63

Posts: 108

Joined: 4th Mar 2011

Gallery: 6 images

Ride: au1 V8 1 tonne poverty pac ute

Location: Brisbane
QLD, Australia

Had a bit of a look on the internet to see what is involved in checking the preload, I gather the intake manifold has to come off to do this, bit of a job for me i can pull things apart and put back together but when it comes to the technical side of things well I might need a mechanic to do it, in the mean time if the push rods are too short can it damage the motor as I have been driving around for nearly 12 months since I changed the rockers, thanks

 

_________________

Don't force it, use a Bigger hammer

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: Stronger valve springs for AU 302W
Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 8:50 am 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 45

Posts: 662

Joined: 14th Jan 2007

Ride: T1 TE50 P01

Location: Perth NoR
WA, Australia

To answer the spring question:

Crow 7738 springs
Crow 12700-XR8 retainers
Crow 11700 collets

All parts are a straight fit, just make cure you get the retainers on in the correct position, as the intake & exhaust are different.

 

_________________

TE50 T1 P01

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: Stronger valve springs for AU 302W
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:23 pm 
Stock as a Rock
Offline
User avatar

Age: 63

Posts: 108

Joined: 4th Mar 2011

Gallery: 6 images

Ride: au1 V8 1 tonne poverty pac ute

Location: Brisbane
QLD, Australia

{USERNAME} wrote:
To answer the spring question:

Crow 7738 springs
Crow 12700-XR8 retainers
Crow 11700 collets

All parts are a straight fit, just make cure you get the retainers on in the correct position, as the intake & exhaust are different.

Thanks

 

_________________

Don't force it, use a Bigger hammer

Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:
Sort by  
 Page 1 of 1  [ 13 posts ] 

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 29 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

 

 

It is currently Tue Dec 24, 2024 5:06 am All times are UTC + 11 hours

 

 

(c)2014 Total Web Solutions Australia - Australian Web Hosting and Domain Names