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Hi Guys
I have to replace my front and back bumpers on my EF. And i am planing on doing it all myself (i am on a pension so i don't have that much cash). Ok i have a sanding pad on my drill that i am planing to use. The bumpers are second hand and have some rather deep scratches, of cause i have a range of paper from a*** to fine. what I need to know is what products that i need to use on plastics like a cleaner for dirt and grease ? and i know you can get bog (body filler) for steel what kind would i need for plastics? and the kind of primer that you use for plastics I think i have this right you don't need to get all the paint of just make it rougher so the primer will stick ? So first i do the sanding and get it all smooth. Then bog the deep stuff (there's no holes i have to worrie about). Then resand till all is smooth Then clean with a cleaner Then paint with primer let it dry ( how many coat would be good ?) Do I then sand the primer or have to clean it before i put the color on? but most important is The kind of products that i need to use on plastics Thanks Lucion Last edited by Lucion on Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:07 pm, edited 1 time in total. |
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Well i just got a quote today on how much it would cost to paint both my bumpers.
$800 / $1000. which is a bit out of my range. looks like i will have to guess what i need to do this |
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Q-I think i have this right you don't need to get all the paint of just make it rougher so the primer will stick ?
A- Paint over the exsisting paint with a decent primer. Q-So first i do the sanding and get it all smooth. A-Yes Q-Then bog the deep stuff (there's no holes i have to worrie about). A-Yes, ther is a special filler for plastic. Do not use normal filler, it will crack. Q-Then resand till all is smooth. A-Yes Q-Then clean with a cleaner. A- This is done first and after every step of prep with Presol/Wax and Grease Remover only. Q-Then paint with primer let it dry ( how many coat would be good ?) A-As little as you need. Primer tends to be more prone to cracking on plactic. Keep it thin as you can. Q-Do I then sand the primer or have to clean it before i put the color on? A-Yes and yes. I use 320-400 grit wet and dry un primer. This flattens it out.
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{USERNAME} wrote: Q-I think i have this right you don't need to get all the paint of just make it rougher so the primer will stick ? A- Paint over the exsisting paint with a decent primer. Q-So first i do the sanding and get it all smooth. A-Yes Q-Then bog the deep stuff (there's no holes i have to worrie about). A-Yes, ther is a special filler for plastic. Do not use normal filler, it will crack. Q-Then resand till all is smooth. A-Yes Q-Then clean with a cleaner. A- This is done first and after every step of prep with Presol/Wax and Grease Remover only. Q-Then paint with primer let it dry ( how many coat would be good ?) A-As little as you need. Primer tends to be more prone to cracking on plactic. Keep it thin as you can. Q-Do I then sand the primer or have to clean it before i put the color on? A-Yes and yes. I use 320-400 grit wet and dry un primer. This flattens it out. thanks so much you have been a big help |
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No worries.
Bumpers are one of the hardest things because they flex. Painting over exsisting paint helps because you have good adhesion to begin with.
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{USERNAME} wrote: No worries. Bumpers are one of the hardest things because they flex. Painting over exsisting paint helps because you have good adhesion to begin with. So very true all i need now is the names of the products that i need to use i know you just cant use normal primer and bog and cleaner I have some rather large scratches to deal with on the bottom of the front bumper from driveways. And living in a small country town i dont sort of trust some guy in a shop for the right products if you know what i mean Thanks Again Lucion |
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You most likely wont see those scratches anyway. I usually sand off the high spots there and paint over it.
You will need to obtain the Plastic Filler from a Pannel Beating Supplier, it isn't something most autoparts shops sell. You can use Acrylic Plastic Primer (Super Cheap, Repco ect) if you wish though I have used normal Acrylic Primer for most bumpers I have painted. It will usually be fine unless you hit something. So just dont hit anything If there is any large areas of raw plastic you will need to use a Plastic Adhesion Promotor Primer on those areas under the normal primer and idealy any area being filled too. This video will clear it all up for you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVLBD-uHRgE even though it is plastic welding, they still go through filling and priming.
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{USERNAME} wrote: You most likely wont see those scratches anyway. I usually sand off the high spots there and paint over it. You will need to obtain the Plastic Filler from a Pannel Beating Supplier, it isn't something most autoparts shops sell. You can use Acrylic Plastic Primer (Super Cheap, Repco ect) if you wish though I have used normal Acrylic Primer for most bumpers I have painted. It will usually be fine unless you hit something. So just dont hit anything If there is any large areas of raw plastic you will need to use a Plastic Adhesion Promotor Primer on those areas under the normal primer and idealy any area being filled too. This video will clear it all up for you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVLBD-uHRgE even though it is plastic welding, they still go through filling and priming. lol i am not planing on hitting anything but thanks for the advice thank a heap for the names of stuff i will need mate now i can make a start fixing and changing the colors on my bumpers. again thank for your help and your time mate Lucion |
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