Brilliant!
Cheers Daz.

Next combat. Poxy Self-levelling Suspension leak. Definitely have to change to standard shocks.

The rears leak and droop after a couple of weeks (there's a valve in the boot that I can pump up at the servo {dunno if thats ridgy-didge or if dad put it in}). Pretty sure that was dad.

It looks nice'n'low when they do sag, but then start to bottom out so I have to pump 'em up again.

The fronts stay put (at monster truck height).

I'm pretty sure it's been disconected cos there is no pumping up sounds etc...

Any thoughts???

Probablly should have been a new thread but oh well....... We can discuss both now.

don't know much about the self levelling suspension but my old fairy (ZF bit older than urs hehe) had the valve in the boot. i thought that if they had the valve they weren't self adjusting ?

i have done this before plenty times. usually cut two coils out of standard springs. ride quality is rubbish because normally you dont change the shock (i guess if i had the $$ to get shortened shocks i would have bought lowered springs)

Anyway i now have super low's in the back of my car with one coil chopped sitting on ultima short shocks. it rides fine and handles great. i would never do more than one coil these days.

you see it done on overhauling all the time. if you 'do it right' then your ok IMO.

hey guys i have a 94 ED, got myself superlow kings and shortened shocks in the rear (2inch im pretty sure?)

and the height isnt quite as low as i want it to be, any opinions on cutting 1 and a half coils out of rear, and half coil out of front?

any info is appreciated cheers!

i have cut e-series before 1 off the front 1 1/2 off the back, its not going to kill you but its going to throw your spring rates up s**t creek, i would advise buying a set just for the fact if you take to much off it will bounce all over the joint and even small bumps in the road will make you feel like your riding a mechanical bull bouncing from the fronts to backs, not very nice ride and i recon it causes rapid suspention component wear.

your best option is to remove them all together and cut you self some bits of 4" by 2" to suit, get some long tec screws and screw them to the shockers, cheers.

Just to clarify...

Cutting springs INCREASES the spring rate!

Spring rate = wire diameter/ number of coils X coil diameter (this is the simple version)

The more coils the softer the spring, the thicker the spring, the harder it is and vice versa.

Thats why custom after market springs have few coils and are thick. The ride becomes bouncy only because the spring is overwhelming the shockers.

Cut springs aren't dodgey, the people who do it are. Any increase in spring rate needs the equilivent increase in damping.

I fitted custom made 7kg/mm springs to my car and they were very short and very stiff, they sat very uncaptive even with after market shocks. And they were bouncy (not as bad as cut springs and stock shocks though).

I once had kings lows in my car (way too high lol) and they are about 1.5kg/mm. I cut 3 coils off I think haha! and they were as stiff (if not more) than my previous racing coil overs with 5kg/mm springs! I had koni shocks with these cuts springs so the ride wasnt bouncy at all, it was very solid. It was no good, offered no traction and stuffed up the geometry of the car cause it was too low, so I bought some lows again and lived with the poo ride height.

Ok so things you need to consider about cut springs:

1 You will never get all four corners the exact height

2 Cutting the spring heats it up and to some degree buggers with the spring rate and strength of the spring itself

3. The more you cut the spring the more you will degrade the ride unless you change shocks

4. It is inadvisable to cut the spring short enough it becomes uncaptive

5. When you cut a spring, you are making it stiffer!!!(in severe cases, too stiff!)


If your springs are uncaptive, you can use steel cable ties to hold them in, its less than ideal but it can work. Here is me hitting turn 1 at mallala in my skyline at about 80-90kph with uncaptive springs. The ripple strip is about 30cm high and it chucked each wheel into the air and smashed my swaybar into the sump however the springs stayed put! Good enough proof for me!

http://s226.photobucket.com/albums/dd68 ... 090588.flv

Iv got a ef falcon and cut two coils out of each spring been drive around for about a year without any problems it rides f*cking rough but handles greet on the track

Swine flu sucked a** big time. Even when not dying you wish you had for a while. I hated that s**t. And the idea of chopping springs ain't much better to be fair. You are chopping out part of the firmness. You are getting a lower bouncier spring. What is that good for in the end?

Doing 20km/h with doof doof and neons under car is about all.

Go find some performance parts on the cheap and do it proper. Real XR6 springs are under $100. Go figure.



And at least, if you are going to chop springs, use a hacksaw....

 

 

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