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Matt_jew wrote: phongus wrote: I put braided lines on the front of my EL (they sent wrong rears and I couldn't be a*** changing them). Felt no difference...the pedal was a little less spongy, but that could have been because of the fluid change and a proper bleed. I changed mine to braided because it was easier to get a set of braided lines than stock. I got them from Hightek Brakes in Melbourne with an engineers certificate so passes road worthy. Does the Safebrake ones come with a certificate? You cannot run braided fronts and rubber rear. It unbalances the system. That's way your brakes only feel slightly firmer. Fit braided rears as well and you will notice the difference. I figured that would be the case, might swing past them (if they still exist) and see if I can grab a set of rears.
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I can't think of one problem with running braided front, and stock rear.
The only thing is you would not get the total benefit of the direct feel associated with braided. It doesn't add any extra pressure to the system, that's controlled by your foot. |
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MAD wrote: I can't think of one problem with running braided front, and stock rear. The only thing is you would not get the total benefit of the direct feel associated with braided. It doesn't add any extra pressure to the system, that's controlled by your foot. Though it would prevent pressure from being lost wouldn't it? As the hoses can't expand like rubber ones can, therefore more pressure is used for stopping the car instead of expanding hoses?
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Sort of, but not really.
The pressure isn't lost, it just does wasted work in a system with rubber lines. The pressure at the caliper will be the same for the same braking effort no matter the lines. Because the rubber lines will stretch a bit, they will take up a little bit of pressure until they can't stretch any further at which point the full pressure will be felt at the caliper. All this means is that your foot needs to move a little further to get the same pressure. |
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MAD wrote: I can't think of one problem with running braided front, and stock rear. The only thing is you would not get the total benefit of the direct feel associated with braided. It doesn't add any extra pressure to the system, that's controlled by your foot. Haven't had any issues running front braided and rear stock, I just didn't feel the difference between stock and braided. Felt a bigger difference during my fluid change when all were stock though.
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I've had a det of SafeBrakes braided lines on the EB for just under a year now and there was definitely a noticeable difference mainly just with the pedal feel.
Like others have said, they feel less spongy and heaps firmer when applying the brakes (although some people prefer a softer pedal). I wouldn't bother upgrading to braided lines if your rubber hoses are still fine, mine were just showing their ages after 20 or so years so thought it would be a good time to upgrade when doing the front pads and rotors. They're definitely an improvement so I guess you just have to weigh up the cost/need/want factors
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I have Safebrake braided hoses all round on my EF XR6 wagon since December. They are quality pieces and will eliminate the swelling and spongy feel you eventually get with rubber. Noticed some improvement in pedal feel, but not dramatic. At the price, they are a bargain - and cheap insurance.
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