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 Post subject: XG ute Air Con - AU engine installation
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2016 8:06 pm 
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Hi everyone,

I need some advice with the mods I'm completing with my XG Ute. I am installing a series 2 AU motor into the ute and everything is going by the book (kinda) except now I've hit a snag with the air conditioning compressor. I didn't read the tech document fully (typical male) and I thought I could bolt an EL a/c compressor onto the motor and it would be all sweet, but no. It doesn't line up properly with the other pulleys. I really don't want to use the XG accessories on the AU motor because I think the AU serpentine setup is far neater.

So my question is, Can the A/C Compressor on an AU be used with the XG A/C system. The obvious changes would be to get hoses with the correct fittings to bolt into the XG A/C system but will the compressor work?

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 Post subject: Re: XG ute Air Con - AU engine installation
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2016 8:29 pm 
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the XH used a differant tensioner to the EF/EL/AU style & i think the aircon base bracket is differant between the XH - EF/EL/AU. i do have the XH aircon bracket here & a AU1 bracket to compare. are you using the AU intake?
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 Post subject: Re: XG ute Air Con - AU engine installation
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2016 9:05 pm 
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Yes, I'm using the BBM. I wonder why the set up was different on the XH? So if I use the XH tensioner and a/c bracket, will the power steering pulley and alternator line up properly?
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Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2016 10:16 pm 
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the XH was differant [except the XH XR6] due to the XH still using the EA-ED intake. don't know re tensioner/bracket as i havn't changed it over on my EL motor to see if i can do it/use it. other than modifing the XG/AU aircon lines .... i'm no help sorry :?
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Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:42 pm 
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I have fitted the AU engine in both my XH (log intake) and EL (BBM intake) and I can say that with the BBM, the AU tensioner was fine with the EL a/c pump. Does the XG use a serpentine belt? If so, with a bit of fiddling, you should be able to fit your existing a/c pump... If not, maybe look at an ED or XH pump, and see if it fits your lines, rather than have custom lines made up.

Don't forget you need a BA alternator, with the two-pin plug. It will bolt up to the AU engine, and plug into the earlier model wiring, if you are doing it that way.

Hope this helps. 8-)

 

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 Post subject: Re: XG ute Air Con - AU engine installation
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Hi mate,no you can't use the XG a/c pump without changing everything on the front of the engine (XG belt set up is same as the EB/ED but AU or EL a/c pump should be fine but you will have to get some lines made to suit though

 

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 Post subject: Re: XG ute Air Con - AU engine installation
Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2017 8:58 pm 
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Thanks guys. Think I'll probably end up using the AU compressor and getting lines made to suit. I've tried fitting an EF compressor but it just doesn't line up properly. I figure at the end of the day it's just an A/C compressor like many others... What could go wrong! :lol:
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Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2017 9:28 pm 
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karlb76 wrote:
I figure at the end of the day it's just an A/C compressor like many others... What could go wrong! :lol:



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Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2017 9:56 pm 
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karlb76 wrote:
Thanks guys. Think I'll probably end up using the AU compressor and getting lines made to suit. I've tried fitting an EF compressor but it just doesn't line up properly. I figure at the end of the day it's just an A/C compressor like many others... What could go wrong! :lol:
What's the model no of the XG compressor - should be one of the Sanden series.

 

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I cant remember exactly what I did, but I was able to use the XH & EL a/c pumps on both AU engine conversions. I do remember the XH needed a longer belt, but I think the EL went together pretty easily. Maybe the spacers between the block and pump were shortened a bit? Too many brain cells sacrificed since then... 8-)

 

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 Post subject: Re: XG ute Air Con - AU engine installation
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:17 am 
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I cant remember exactly what I did, but I was able to use the XH & EL a/c pumps on both AU engine conversions. I do remember the XH needed a longer belt, but I think the EL went together pretty easily. Maybe the spacers between the block and pump were shortened a bit? Too many brain cells sacrificed since then... 8-)



think it was Snap that mentioned the XH/EL [?] aircon pumps are similar. XH longer belt? pretty sure out of the AU & XH belts here the XH is slightly shorter [not a great deal].
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