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 Post subject: Knock sensor crank or cam angle sensor
Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 10:21 am 
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Hey guy been trying to locate the knock crank or cam sensor on my 97 xr6 falcon now I was told it was on the front of the motor above the crank but I have had a look and there is no signs of no sensor being there I have googled it trying to find it but I haven’t come across anything on there can some please enlighten me to where this sensor could be cheers guys
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Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 10:33 am 
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Hey guy been trying to locate the knock crank or cam sensor on my 97 xr6 falcon now I was told it was on the front of the motor above the crank but I have had a look and there is signs of no sensor being there I have googled it trying to find it but I haven’t come across anything on there can some please enlighten me to where this sensor could be cheers guys



Crank, knock and cam sensors are 3 different sensors

Crank sensor will be off the front of the engine hanging out of the timing cover @ the 12:00 position

Knock sensor i'm not 100% sure on will be bolted to the side of the block under the intake somewhere my guess will be around the middle

Cam angle sensor went in the hole the distributor is mounted in (not used on a EL as it had a distributor and single coil pack)

i think all this info is true and correct im sure ill get told other wise Ill try and get a Photo of where the sensor is mounted later

 

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 Post subject: Re: Knock sensor crank or cam angle sensor
Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 10:39 am 
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Cheers there’s seems to be no sigh of a crank sensor ever being at the front of the motor at the position that you have said next will to be looking at the knock sensor. Would the crank sensor may be put some where else as my friends falcon is the same as myn and his doesn’t have the crank sensor at the front either. I’m hoping that one of these sensors is preventing car from firing as it wines over but would fire have replaced dizzy the cap inhibitor switch all relays and fuseable links and so far have had no sucess
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Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 10:48 am 
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knock sensor shouldnt stop the car running i dont think, there there to help prevent pinging/knocking.


the sensor is hard to spot is only 2 wires hanging out of the timing cover

 

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Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 10:53 am 
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your car is EL isnt it? just done some googling and they don't have the sensor in the timing cover all the sensing is done through the distributor

 

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 Post subject: Re: Knock sensor crank or cam angle sensor
Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 10:55 am 
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Yip mind is a el so the distributor that I put in could be dodge as well ?
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Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 10:58 am 
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Madmanxr6 wrote:
Yip mind is a el so the distributor that I put in could be dodge as well ?


there could be a high chance of that

heres a link to the info i just learned about el's not having one and the cause turned out to be a new dizzy

 

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Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 10:59 am 
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Cheers for ya help will look at getting a new one sorted
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Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 11:03 am 
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Cheers for ya help will look at getting a new one sorted



No worries at all sorry for the Mis-info on the location, i even went and checked on the location, but i was looking on a EF explains why i seen it where it was ment to be . good luck with it all

 

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Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 12:32 pm 
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Madmanxr6 wrote:
Cheers there’s seems to be no sigh of a crank sensor ever being at the front of the motor at the position that you have said next will to be looking at the knock sensor. Would the crank sensor may be put some where else as my friends falcon is the same as myn and his doesn’t have the crank sensor at the front either. I’m hoping that one of these sensors is preventing car from firing as it wines over but would fire have replaced dizzy the cap inhibitor switch all relays and fuseable links and so far have had no sucess



does your interior lamp work? ... not long fixed up a EL that "ran out of fuel and died", so nephew said lol. turned out to be the CLRT fuse [top left think it was on the fuse panel] had blown. replaced & car ran as previously.
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Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 1:19 pm 
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Madmanxr6 wrote:
Cheers there’s seems to be no sigh of a crank sensor ever being at the front of the motor at the position that you have said next will to be looking at the knock sensor. Would the crank sensor may be put some where else as my friends falcon is the same as myn and his doesn’t have the crank sensor at the front either. I’m hoping that one of these sensors is preventing car from firing as it wines over but would fire have replaced dizzy the cap inhibitor switch all relays and fuseable links and so far have had no sucess



does your interior lamp work? ... not long fixed up a EL that "ran out of fuel and died", so nephew said lol. turned out to be the CLRT fuse [top left think it was on the fuse panel] had blown. replaced & car ran as previously.



Very good point there, i got caught out by that recently changed window motors decided to swap ignition keys so i actually had a spare car cranked fine no start tho interior light donno if it works as no globe in it checked fuse anyway and there it was blown swapped it over and all was good

 

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Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 3:29 pm 
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Very good point there, i got caught out by that recently changed window motors decided to swap ignition keys so i actually had a spare car cranked fine no start tho interior light donno if it works as no globe in it checked fuse anyway and there it was blown swapped it over and all was good



yeah i said blown fuse 1st up ...... then we got it back to their place & forgot about it lol.
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Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 4:25 pm 
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Interior lights are going and the fuse is fine as that was the first thing I check so I’m gunna change the dizzy and see if that helps
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Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 5:13 pm 
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see if you have anything coming from the coil 1st ... the TFI unit
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