Fordmods Logo

reconditioning EFI250 how much? 

 

Page 1 of 1 [ 14 posts ] 

 
 Post subject: reconditioning EFI250 how much?
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 4:00 pm 
Fordmods Newbie
Offline

Age: 39

Posts: 12

Joined: 6th Sep 2005

Location: victor harbor
SA, Australia

howdy again


how much would it cost to recondition my EFI250 crossflow?
i want to make it more powerful aswell, so what should i do internally to make the the motor go hard? and is it worth it? :?
Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 4:23 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 38

Posts: 1085

Joined: 6th Nov 2004

Ride: BF XR Turbo

Location: Castle Hill
NSW, Australia

to get someone to do the reco i dont know,,

i rebuilt one for my car,, a carby engine,, and all i can say is its definately worth it go for a 1800-4800rpm cam raise the compression a bit and itll run like a completely different car..

you cant put too big of a cam in an injected motor (with stock ecu) as far as im aware as the ecu will have a fit... i sourced alot of parts off ebay (new acl pistons & rings $100 :)) and just remember if your looking for valve gear lots of clevo stuff is identical

-mitch

 

_________________

BF XR6T 6spd Auto. 60lb injectors, Hybrid Cooler, Custom Piping, Custom Surge Tank, Actuator.

12.3 @ 114

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2005 1:21 am 
Getting Side Ways
Offline

Age: 42

Posts: 7287

Joined: 5th Nov 2004

Gallery: 12 images

Ride: 1994 ED XR8 Sprint

Location: Somewhere in
QLD, Australia

how much is it gonna cost....... better question is: How much do you wanna spend?

 

_________________

Banned

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: 250 crossflow
Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2005 12:14 pm 
Smokin em up
Offline

Age: 53

Posts: 282

Joined: 4th Jun 2005

Gallery: 9 images

Ride: ef xr8

Location: Northern
NSW, Australia

use 3.3L rods and flat top pistons,with a what they labell a C2 alloy head-which you should have being a EFI motor.Look for a C2 marking on the head.The 3.3 rods have a longer stroke therefore sucking in more air/fuel.
Also aim for a comp ratio around 11 to 1

 

_________________

----------------------------------------------------
FOR SALE;EF 5.0 auto ecu with tweecer $600
----------------------------------------------------

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2005 12:31 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 38

Posts: 1085

Joined: 6th Nov 2004

Ride: BF XR Turbo

Location: Castle Hill
NSW, Australia

isnt c2 a later carby head? thats whats on mine, its a 8/87 unleaded carb motor..

i thought c meant carby.. could be mistaken

-mitch

 

_________________

BF XR6T 6spd Auto. 60lb injectors, Hybrid Cooler, Custom Piping, Custom Surge Tank, Actuator.

12.3 @ 114

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2005 2:18 pm 
Tyre Shredder
Offline

Age: 38

Posts: 384

Joined: 26th Jun 2005

Ride: 1984 FD LTD

Location: Mackay
QLD, Australia

my oct 87 ZL Fairlane, (EFI250) has E2 stamped nice and largely on the inlet side of the head... if that helps out at all...

 

_________________

Member Of "Team LWB"
FD: My Current Project

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v146/ ... age029.jpg

ZL: A Work In Progress - that went to the tip!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v146/ ... maller.jpg

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2005 2:40 pm 
Fordmods Newbie
Offline

Age: 39

Posts: 12

Joined: 6th Sep 2005

Location: victor harbor
SA, Australia

Interceptor wrote:
how much is it gonna cost....... better question is: How much do you wanna spend?


about 3, 4 grand? and can you get aftermarket computers for them? and how much? because if i was to get a aftermarket computer i could go bigger on the cam right?
Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2005 3:16 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline

Age: 42

Posts: 7287

Joined: 5th Nov 2004

Gallery: 12 images

Ride: 1994 ED XR8 Sprint

Location: Somewhere in
QLD, Australia

yea, you can get aftermarket computers, the big name ones will cost a bit (probably $1500+), and you have the option of megasquirt, but i'm not the best person to ask on the subject of aftermarket ECU's

yes, an aftermarket ECU will let you run a bigger cam

chooka wrote:
The 3.3 rods have a longer stroke therefore sucking in more air/fuel.
Also aim for a comp ratio around 11 to 1

11:1 is way too high for average pump fuel, you'd be looking for Optimax/Synergy/Vortex+octane booster or even avgas to run that.....

the 3.3 rods wont change your stroke or make the engine suck in more air or fuel

 

_________________

Banned

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2005 3:59 pm 
Tyre Shredder
Offline

Age: 38

Posts: 384

Joined: 26th Jun 2005

Ride: 1984 FD LTD

Location: Mackay
QLD, Australia

it hought the 3.3 rods where ment to be stronger than the 4.1 rods? :S

 

_________________

Member Of "Team LWB"
FD: My Current Project

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v146/ ... age029.jpg

ZL: A Work In Progress - that went to the tip!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v146/ ... maller.jpg

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 12:24 am 
Getting Side Ways
Offline

Age: 43

Posts: 9452

Joined: 9th Nov 2004

Gallery: 4 images

Ride: Fordrunner 5.0 Turbo

Location: Wollongong
NSW, Australia

Nah they are still as thin as toothpicks. A 3.3 rod is more desirable because the piston will dwell at TDC and BDC longer which gives a bit more power. Think of it as almost free horespower.
Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 12:32 pm 
Stock as a Rock
Offline
User avatar

Posts: 122

Joined: 25th Apr 2005

Gallery: 9 images

Ride: EL Fairmont Ghia

Location: Gold Coast
QLD, Australia

Quote:
isnt c2 a later carby head?

The stamp on the side of the head only represents the casting. The most noticable difference between them is the valve chamber e.g(oval, kidney, heart shaped, etc).

One of the thing to remember is that for anti-pollution ford retarded the crank timing by 4deg. What I did on my XF EFI is advanced the cam by ONE TOOTH (ON THE CAM GEAR, NOT THE CRANK GEAR) which is 11deg (rounded off) then deduct the 4deg ford retarded the crank and you end up with 7deg advance on your cam, BIG DIFFERENCE IN POWER. the only downside is you have loads of torque down low, but, it runs out after about 4000rpm depending on the cam.

 

_________________

Knower of ALL......Master of NOTHING !!!

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 12:35 am 
Parts Gopher
Offline

Age: 46

Posts: 76

Joined: 5th Jul 2005

Ride: Fairlane

Location: Sydney
NSW, Australia

heyo,

do you need a new cam to do this or can you do this on a std cam? i have a 1984 ZK fairlane with the 6cyl EFI engine.

cya
Rene.,
Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 12:31 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 38

Posts: 1085

Joined: 6th Nov 2004

Ride: BF XR Turbo

Location: Castle Hill
NSW, Australia

you can use the standard one if you want (provided its in good shape, but for $200 odd for a new higher performance one why would you?
a bigger cam in a crossflow makes a heap of difference :)
definately worth the monies





-mitch

 

_________________

BF XR6T 6spd Auto. 60lb injectors, Hybrid Cooler, Custom Piping, Custom Surge Tank, Actuator.

12.3 @ 114

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 5:09 pm 
Stock as a Rock
Offline
User avatar

Posts: 122

Joined: 25th Apr 2005

Gallery: 9 images

Ride: EL Fairmont Ghia

Location: Gold Coast
QLD, Australia

Quote:

PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 11:35 pm Post subject:
heyo,

do you need a new cam to do this or can you do this on a std cam? i have a 1984 ZK fairlane with the 6cyl EFI engine.


If your refering to advancing the cam like I have described, then the answer is yes.
I don't know how you would go if you had a lumpy cam, it may be to aggresive adjusting it like that.

 

_________________

Knower of ALL......Master of NOTHING !!!

Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:
Sort by  
 Page 1 of 1  [ 14 posts ] 

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 31 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

 

 

It is currently Fri Nov 22, 2024 5:34 am All times are UTC + 11 hours

 

 

(c)2014 Total Web Solutions Australia - Australian Web Hosting and Domain Names