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Hi,
Ive just turboed that Effie with a garret 35/40 and full 3 inch exhaust... Ive just got a great deal on a Wolf 3d V4 and was wondering how to go about install. For starters, im in brisbane, and cannot find anyone willing to give it a go. Since ive done most the work myself, and i have plenty of cars sitting out the front, ive decided to go about it myself. After looking through the manual, the injectors, and sensors seem pretty straight foreward. However, since i have the coil pack happening, how the hell do i go about installing the coil pack with the wolf 3d V4. Ive been told i need V4+ for coil packs, but i really cant resist this good deal and go and buy a V4+ ... Apparently i need an igniter?? Not too sure. So, Will i be better off simply getting a coil and dizzy into the EF?? Will that save me time and money, or will i be better off getting whatever parts i need for the coil pack?? Also, a few other little questions.. What parts do i need for the boost controller with the wolf for an external gate setup What o2 sensor do i need to get A/F ratios on the hand controller?? And where can i get this from? Thanks.. |
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EF_STOCKO wrote: Hi,
Ive just turboed that Effie with a garret 35/40 and full 3 inch exhaust... Ive just got a great deal on a Wolf 3d V4 and was wondering how to go about install. For starters, im in brisbane, and cannot find anyone willing to give it a go. Since ive done most the work myself, and i have plenty of cars sitting out the front, ive decided to go about it myself. After looking through the manual, the injectors, and sensors seem pretty straight foreward. However, since i have the coil pack happening, how the hell do i go about installing the coil pack with the wolf 3d V4. Ive been told i need V4+ for coil packs, but i really cant resist this good deal and go and buy a V4+ ... Apparently i need an igniter?? Not too sure. So, Will i be better off simply getting a coil and dizzy into the EF?? Will that save me time and money, or will i be better off getting whatever parts i need for the coil pack?? Also, a few other little questions.. What parts do i need for the boost controller with the wolf for an external gate setup What o2 sensor do i need to get A/F ratios on the hand controller?? And where can i get this from? Thanks.. about the coil pack and the verion 4/4+ flick FPV_GTP a pm (Ivan) hes organised a few group buys for various wolf version and know quite bit bout em....see what he recommends u do or what info he can provide to help u out
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id run a dizzy and crane hi-6 cdi unit.. bigger spark, excellent for boost
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SileNceR |
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also look into m&w ignition's igniters (they work with a wolf) if you go with dizzy there are basically only three wires to connect - and these are also the igniter of choice of most v8 supercars teams who run motec ecu's.
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I should have kept the EB!!!
Cant you run the coils in the same way as the injectors with the regular version 4? You wont need to get the 4 plus according to how I read the manual. Dual output multicoils. |
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EF_STOCKO |
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I am seriously contemplating dizzy.. Just for ease of installation.
I was told id need a cfi dizzy?? would there be any difference between the two?? I mean wouldnt a simple EL dizzy setup be the go?? And what exactly is the igniter? is it what tells the coil to spark at a certain time??? So am i right in saying i need an igniter for both coil packs and dizzy?? and wheres the best joint to get one of these babies?? Now with the installation, i have been told i need a filter for the hall sensor?? and also some crank pulley mods?? I always assumed that they just slotted straight on in with just the wiring to do?? I mean the injectors and sensors part seems to be sweet, but the ignition side of things has got me stumped. Cheers fellas. |
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bfturb |
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the differance is the teeth for the hall afect sensor yeas use a cpfi one the igniter gets the signal from the ecu runs the coil sorta like a realy there is a lot of mucking around to get it to work trust me
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EF_STOCKO |
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So which setup??
I will stay coil packed if i can find the correct igniters to use?? Can i simply use the crank angle sensor as the ignition input?? I see that the installation guide has 3 igniters, going to 3 of the cyls and tehre opposites.. What Igniters Do I Need?? And do i need to mod the harmonic balencer??(so ive been told) |
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SileNceR |
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Dansedgli wrote: I should have kept the EB!!!
Cant you run the coils in the same way as the injectors with the regular version 4? You wont need to get the 4 plus according to how I read the manual. Dual output multicoils. looks like v4 can output to 3 coils... not 100% I forget now so if they are dual output multicoils it should be fine, http://www.mwignitions.com/inductiv.htm one of these should be able to do the trick with either coil pack or dizzy too I think |
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EF_STOCKO |
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ok so one of those will handle the coil pack???
So how do i wire in the 3 outputs from the wolf??? If you look at the install manual, in section 4.3.4.5 it shows the diagram which has output 1 from wolf --> Igniter 1 --> Dual coil pack 1 output 2 from wolf --> Igniter 2 --> Dual Coil pack 2 output 3 from wolf --> Igniter 3 --> Dual Coil Pack 3 Now, how will i get this to be All 3 outputs --> 1 igniter(the mw looks good) --> coil pack Also, is the crank angle sensor a suitable input for the ignition to the wolf?? what do i have to mod on the harmonic balencer? |
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PM FPV_GTP he knows all this s**t. The MW ignitor is his choice and that crank pulley doesnt need to be modified. Have a read through this thread, it has some info. http://www.fordmods.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=19457
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