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Check the gas research australia site for an installer near u and give them a call to find out exactly what youd need. Off the top of my head id say a 2nd converter (maybe 2 unsure if they r diff to the stnd ones) performance throttle body, new gas comp and extra lines... Feel free to add some more ne1
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Went and talked to teh gas guro
Becsue all the commercially LPGi systems available at present require sequential injection, i will have to run a experimental system if i want injection. This will basically make my run sequential injection. They recon that i will have next to no issues running this, and it will be a fully tunable system, and can plug it into a laptop and drive round and tune it if i want. Cost for this is $4000 They had a 4.1 crossflow at their workshop running a draw through gas carbie setup, unsure on power but said they could break traction at 80kph pretty easily. He also said it was quite difficult to run a blow through style system? I will look up blow trhough ones a bit more and see what i find, as it will be roughly 1500 cheaper- bit of a differnce on a budget build up
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Let me know how u go mate.
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Give Jake Edwards a call at Jakes Performance in Canberra, 02 6255 4545. He's done more than a few of these and really knows his stuff.
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after a few dumb questions, taking what other people who actualy know what they are on abouts opinions, and reading i will most likely be going with the gra blow through, which is what i planned all along- just damn lpg guys telling me it wont work haha
Single throttle body, twin converters and twin lines back to a t peice on the tank. I have been recommended to use a 400cfm bit too Also a guy from another forums reccomends a 1/2" balancer line. Will fit up my turbo in the next few weeks, or maybe wait till holidays, then get the gas installed (so i can be installed around it  )
Only problem i have now is ordering it and waiting, a few shops i have talked to dont want to deal with GRA as they are too busy to get back to them in a reasonalble time. So will prob order it myself and try get a makte to fit it, failing that Im off to a shop i talked to yesterday
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p.s. a system lik ethat will cost 3000 installed roughly (if u dont have any of the stuff) if you get a shop to do it
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yep, $3000 is pretty much spot on.
you can deffinately do it, i'm doing pretty much exactly as you are Jase, are you installing on an EF/EL? if so where do you plan to install 2 converters? the only place i can think of using is where the airbox usually goes, which has legality issues so some shops may refuse it.
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Both of the converters have to be put in horizontal as close as possible to the throttlebody or throttlebodies. U could always put them one on top of the other in front of the turbo??? Im buying in all the gear cept the tank and installing soon, going to see a guy next week about placement of stuff so i will let u kno effalcon. GRA says u must use a balancer line for all draw thru forced apps so yeah that guy was right, they have a bunch of tech docos on their webpage that help alot.
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Yeah, currently the single B2 is sitting EXACTLY where the turbo will sit, so it has to be moved.
theres not really enough room infront of the turbo, keep in mind you have to run piping to the front of the turbo. also consider the immense heat from the turbo, its recommended you don't get the converters too close to extractors, let alone a turbo exhaust housing. I've got everything in my car except for the 2nd converter. I've got a 2nd B2, just need to get the GRA spring kit and install a larger service line. Then fit up the brackets for the converters.
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EFFalcon wrote: yep, $3000 is pretty much spot on.
you can deffinately do it, i'm doing pretty much exactly as you are Jase, are you installing on an EF/EL? if so where do you plan to install 2 converters? the only place i can think of using is where the airbox usually goes, which has legality issues so some shops may refuse it. yeah mine is going on a EL I was going to set the turbo up and look at what space i have left after that, bloody b2 have to sit flat. Was thinking in the airbox area, but will have to check it out. 3" cooler pipes may get in way also 
Am trying to see where ezy 10s mounted his, but cant find a good picture
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Most likely up below where the washer bottle is on our cars.
not exactly much room up there for us.
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wouldnt it be easier to change to the ed manifold and then sit them flush on top. looks nice n neat
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for some it may be easier, and its something i've considered.
unfortauntely i've already got intercooler piping made up for the EF manifold, not exacly something i want to throw away. things may change later down the track if i get a custom manifold or something but for now i'll try to make the least amount of changes possible.
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