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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 12:58 pm 
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I know there were some people playing around with these last year.
Just wandering if there was one out that will fit my EF XR8 :?: :?:

 

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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 1:10 pm 
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Short answer? No

Long answer? No - if they were OBD-II compliant EEC-V (i.e. AU) would be easier, i think the people that did the BA flasher are working on AU. But they are not real EEC-V and not real EEC-IV....

Some EB-ED (i.e. ED sprint) EECs are supported by Tweecer but our EF V8's have a 104pin loom so cant use one of these older EECs in em.

Bugger eh?

 

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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 2:34 pm 
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What are the advantages of the EF EEC, if I converted to an EB EEC to facilitate the use tweecer what would I be missing out on.

 

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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 2:56 pm 
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EF 4.9 wrote:
What are the advantages of the EF EEC, if I converted to an EB EEC to facilitate the use tweecer what would I be missing out on.


Thermofan controls... can be fixed with tweecer tho. My understanding of EF EEC is that it's an EEC-V with the EEC-IV memory maps loaded. So EEC-V prolly has better processing power, more memory (and in later versions, OBD-II) but doubt if the driver could tell the difference.

Cant 'convert' to an EB EEC tho.... EB EEC will have a 60 pin harness.... EF/EL V8's have a 104pin.... unless you wanna change to an EB loom.... but then i think issues with dashboard.... brad?

 

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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 3:25 pm 
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I think we need Pete to post a info thread on what fits what and what Aussie EEC is Tweecer compatible, then make it a sticky, maybe even a doco for docos section down the track.

I think Brad and Matti would be into that idea.


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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 4:38 pm 
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4.9 EF Futura wrote:

Thermofan controls... can be fixed with tweecer tho. My understanding of EF EEC is that it's an EEC-V with the EEC-IV memory maps loaded. So EEC-V prolly has better processing power, more memory (and in later versions, OBD-II) but doubt if the driver could tell the difference.

Cant 'convert' to an EB EEC tho.... EB EEC will have a 60 pin harness.... EF/EL V8's have a 104pin.... unless you wanna change to an EB loom.... but then i think issues with dashboard.... brad?


I guess you would also have issues with the EF/EL trip computer.
If the memory maps are the same why can't they be edited with Tweecer, Im assuming that they are encoded diffrently or something.
I prolly have no real need for a tweecer annyway. Apparently The standard EEC handles modifications well annyway.

 

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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 4:46 pm 
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Bingo. Can pull the binary dumps out (i.e. using SonOfEECSucka) but need to know what is located in which part of the memory. Each different catch code has scalars/maps located at different hex location in the memory... so need to crack each catch code seperately. 4DED (likely to be the one you have, its in mine and a few ppl over here have em as well) is a fairly common V8 EEC (ie. non XR8) so if anyone ever gets going on these EECs i'd say we'll be one of the first cabs off the rank.

Yeah MAF EEC will adapt fairly well to minor mods as far as fueling goes.... copes a lot better than speed density system like I6.

I'd love a tweecer... but CAPA did pretty well with the chip, should be fine until i change anything else. Prolly easier to go aftermarket anyways...

 

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Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 7:39 am 
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4.9 EF Futura wrote:
Yeah MAF EEC will adapt fairly well to minor mods as far as fueling goes.... copes a lot better than speed density system like I6.


The annoying thing is that there is a s**t load of power right through the rev range available by tinkering with the ignition curves.

 

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