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Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 10:40 am 
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My car has started running a bit rough when it's cold, but only last for about 30 seconds. When i take off the car will run normal then start to have a flatspot at around 2000rpm and will surge a bit, then when you put your foot down a little further it will go away. When it does go away the car will not surge anymore but seems to still have a bit of trouble getting past that 2000rpm and seems to go up the rev range a bit slower.

Anyone know what this could be?

I just replaced the plugs and the leads are new iv checked for vacume leaks aswell. Could the dizzy be stuffing up?

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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:57 pm 
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anyone have an idea or has it happend to them???

 

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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 5:27 pm 
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blocked cat convertor. mine had a flat spot like yours, turned out the cat was blocked and needed to be replaced. got a new one and was all good :)

oh and as for your rough running on cold starts, that was also happening to me when my auxillary shaft was on its way out.

 

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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 6:48 pm 
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Ok cheers

The cat is only a year old and its a stainless 2.5" highflow so that should still be alright, might have check that shaft out

I think i might take it to ultratune and get them to put it on there diag and see if any of the sensors are dead, hopefully its just a sensor.

 

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Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 3:15 am 
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alfy wrote:
...oh and as for your rough running on cold starts, that was also happening to me when my auxillary shaft was on its way out.


auxillary shaft ???

 

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Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 3:17 am 
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fiftyone wrote:
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...oh and as for your rough running on cold starts, that was also happening to me when my auxillary shaft was on its way out.


auxillary shaft ???


thats what i was told... because the teeth on the dizzy gear were half stripped, causing the timing to be out or some s**t like that lol

 

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Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 3:30 am 
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what is it tho?

 

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Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 3:48 am 
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get the exhaust sniffed by ultra-tune etc or if you have a timing light me. I would short out the top and bottom pins on the left of the diagnostic plug and check the base ignition timing and idle.

 

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Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 11:55 am 
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ok i went to ultratune this morning, no sensors were dead. Turns out my fuel filters was 90% blocked and you could barely blow through it. The car feels heaps more torquey and revs up much smoother.

Also my timing on my dizzy has been advanced 6 degrees.

I havn't done a complete cold start yet, but the car feels heaps stronger. Hopefully its fine tommorow morning.

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Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 3:18 pm 
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GeZza200 wrote:
ok i went to ultratune this morning, no sensors were dead. Turns out my fuel filters was 90% blocked and you could barely blow through it. The car feels heaps more torquey and revs up much smoother.

Also my timing on my dizzy has been advanced 6 degrees.

I havn't done a complete cold start yet, but the car feels heaps stronger. Hopefully its fine tommorow morning.

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Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 6:06 pm 
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GeZza200 wrote:
ok i went to ultratune this morning, no sensors were dead. Turns out my fuel filters was 90% blocked and you could barely blow through it. The car feels heaps more torquey and revs up much smoother.

Also my timing on my dizzy has been advanced 6 degrees.

I havn't done a complete cold start yet, but the car feels heaps stronger. Hopefully its fine tommorow morning.

Cheers



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yeah...good to see it wasn't too much of a problem. If it was the case of just a blocked filter...then I think i shall go and change mine too and see how I go :?...hopefully mine is just the filter and not the auxiliary as well.

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Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 9:12 pm 
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If it is the auxiliary shaft. Say hello to a new engine!

Came to a conclusion that the only way for the aux shaft to seize is throught no oil.

 

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Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 9:27 pm 
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just had the auxilary drive go on mine, and my car had the same symptoms as you described..

gutless before 2000 then became alive..then one night it just stalled while driving and hasn't started since.

time for the au engine to go in
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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 11:28 am 
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ok drove it this morning and all seems fine no chuggin and no flat spots before 2000rpm and revs up much smoother. How does the auxilary shaft go by the way?

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