Fordmods Logo

ED Futura vs EL XR6 @ Drags 

 

Page 1 of 1 [ 15 posts ] 

 
 Post subject: ED Futura vs EL XR6 @ Drags
Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:12 pm 
Tyre Shredder
Offline
User avatar

Age: 35

Posts: 354

Joined: 11th Dec 2007

Ride: ED Futura Classic & EF Futura SW

Location: Scummers
VIC, Australia

the mate i got my car off wanted to pay for me and a mate to go to the drags to see is i could beat my mates EL XR6 in my ED. In my opinion the XR6 will win but was wanting to know what other people think. My ED is N/A and 100% stock as a rock. The EL is N/A and has extractors and 2 1/2" sports exhaust other then that it's stock, But has minor gear box probs and both the falcons are auto.
So if ya keep in mind the weight of the cars and the power of the engines what do other people think would win?


Cheers.
Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:15 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 35

Posts: 5881

Joined: 2nd Mar 2006

Gallery: 5 images

Ride: 2021 Amarok V6

Location: Port Lincoln
SA, Australia

i think the EL will beat you by a fair margin.

 

_________________

2021 V6 Manual Amarok - 245kw/750nm - many goodies
1997 EL Fairmont Ghia 4.0 - Heritage Green & Cappa
2010 Suzuki GSX650F - when I want to be silly

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:30 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 35

Posts: 4316

Joined: 30th Oct 2006

Gallery: 18 images

Ride: Envi EF

Location: Grafton
NSW, Australia

More power, stuff all more weight, and a better diff ratio + LSD should see you beaten comfortably.

 

_________________

>>>EF Futura T build<<<

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:31 pm 
Tyre Shredder
Offline
User avatar

Age: 35

Posts: 354

Joined: 11th Dec 2007

Ride: ED Futura Classic & EF Futura SW

Location: Scummers
VIC, Australia

i do have an lsd my self. but yeah id have to say that he would win. i may need to upgrade the cam for a little help... and forget to tell him.
Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:55 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 35

Posts: 4316

Joined: 30th Oct 2006

Gallery: 18 images

Ride: Envi EF

Location: Grafton
NSW, Australia

What ratio do you have though?

LSD in XRs are 3.45, your would be something like 2.92 or 3.08. Best mod you could do would be drop some 4.11s in. You'll do 60 in first, and 100 in second. I'd say with that mod alone youd beat him.

 

_________________

>>>EF Futura T build<<<

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 12:05 am 
Tyre Shredder
Offline
User avatar

Age: 35

Posts: 354

Joined: 11th Dec 2007

Ride: ED Futura Classic & EF Futura SW

Location: Scummers
VIC, Australia

mine is a 3.08. and id like to drop some 4.11 gears in my is a daily runner so i dont really want to.
Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 12:05 am 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 36

Posts: 1644

Joined: 8th Feb 2006

Gallery: 10 images

Ride: Ef Ghiaaaaaargh!

Location: Perth
WA, Australia

Why dont people ever do the opposite, go actually race something then report back on it instead of hypothetical questions..

 

_________________

Mercedes 500SEC: -- GONE -- http://www.fordmods.com/the-garage-f53/my-83-mercedes-500sec-buildup-t69837.html
Ef Ghia: -- GONE -- Pacie 4480's, 2.5" Redback, custom grille, FTR's.
AU xr8: BA xr wheels, 2.5" custom exh, leather and woodgrain next.
Chevy Camaro: LHD, Black, all original.

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 12:18 am 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 35

Posts: 4316

Joined: 30th Oct 2006

Gallery: 18 images

Ride: Envi EF

Location: Grafton
NSW, Australia

Mate, 4.11s in an auto wont make stuff all difference to your fuel economy - it will sit on around 2300/2400rpm at 100, and I would say it would use less fuel around town.

 

_________________

>>>EF Futura T build<<<

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 12:39 am 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Posts: 3331

Joined: 27th Dec 2004

Gallery: 4 images

Ride: MCMXCV Falcon

Location: G town
VIC, Australia

yours will do a high 16, his will do a high 15 or 16 flat provided u both get good launches...

he will beat u by .5 to .8 sec I reckon

 

_________________

Image

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 3:45 am 
Fordmods Addict
Offline
User avatar

Age: 38

Posts: 7958

Joined: 1st Jun 2005

Gallery: 13 images

Ride: Falcon

Power: 237 rwkw

Location: Melbourne
VIC, Australia

My ex-ED did 15.9 with what appeared to be a pressbent 2.5" catback of unknown origin.
Only other mod was no airbox lid, no filter and a leaking headgasket.

Point being, way too many variables to answer this question, just like all the other "versus" threads!
Race him and find out.

 

_________________

ED XR8 Sprint - S-Trim, V500, 249rwkw
BF MKII F6 Tornado - 237rwkw

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 11:59 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 42

Posts: 1775

Joined: 10th Jul 2007

Gallery: 8 images

Ride: BFII Turbo

Power: 253 rwkw

Location: Waurn Ponds
VIC, Australia

yes production tolerances do still exist. some do seem to be freakish. 15.9 from a ed with catback, that should go down in some sort of record book!

even with a dodgy converter or slipping box the xr would have you. even if his was stock and you had the extractors and exhaust he would still win, as xr's have a very good torque curve, and get moving right from the get go without letup. the peak isnt all that high, but the curve is the magic. add the 3.45 diff and he would have to blow his gearbox to bits to loose this one.

about 1 second at the line will be the differnce.

 

_________________

enough isn't enough

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 2:03 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline

Posts: 3025

Joined: 28th Oct 2005

Gallery: 13 images

Ride: BA MKII XR8

Location: Caroline Springs
VIC, Australia

What happens if your mate sells his car and buys an XR6T ?

Mate, forget about who's car is faster in a straight line.
Just be happy with your car.
And if your not, mod it until you are or sell it for something you will be happy with.

There's always going to be someone out there who is going to have something that's better, quicker, nicer than yours.

By the way, my money would be on the EL by two or three car lengths at the end of the quarter.
Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 3:45 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 40

Posts: 2057

Joined: 25th May 2006

Ride: ef xr8

Power: 229 rwkw

Location: Perth
WA, Australia

I reckon the EL by half a second.

But freak cars do exist, for some strange reason a good launch and a nice cold night can yield a good time. Last season there was a near bog stock EF GLI down the motorplex, he ran a few 15.5's, auto standard gears, standard exhaust, only thing he'd done was a service and a K+N Pod Filter.

 

_________________

Because of Beer, Thirst is a Beautiful Thing!

'95 EF XR8 auto, Advance headers, 3" exhaust, Cobra manifold, BBK 75mm throttle body , 80MM Marauder MAF, Vortech V2 T Trim , 307 rwhp, 405 ft/lb 13.2 @ 105 MPH

Now N/A (permanent Lag) - AFR 165's, Comp XE270 cam, 1.6 RR - 269 rwhp 14.1 @ 102mph.

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:56 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline

Age: 35

Posts: 1538

Joined: 4th May 2006

Gallery: 4 images

Ride: ef fairmont turbo

Power: 213 rwkw

Location: melbourne
VIC, Australia

15.8 with a stock standard ef fairy..
dead even with a stock ef xr8 3 times

about 2 years ago tho

no freak cars, just healthy well maintained ones and the average car.


no one can say who will win as we dont no exactly how bad the tranny is.
but if both were in good cond id say 15.6 for the xr and .7 slower for you

 

_________________

96 EF FAIRMONT
Garrett gt40turbo, iceman plenum, ported head, turbo cam, double valvesprings, 023 fuel pump, 36lb injectors 4' cat, 4' dump, 2.5 exhaust, build bottom end, hypertonic pistons rods & rods, king bearings, j3. c10 3500 stall
232rwkw@4psi

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 12:07 am 
Parts Gopher
Offline

Age: 38

Posts: 51

Joined: 5th Jun 2006

Ride: 2001 au2 sr wagon

Location: sunbury
VIC, Australia

Hey Gerard i guess we will just have to drag it out :P my auto is slipping a little between 3rd and 2nd but we shall see :)
Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:
Sort by  
 Page 1 of 1  [ 15 posts ] 

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 18 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

 

 

It is currently Fri Nov 22, 2024 12:16 am All times are UTC + 11 hours

 

 

(c)2014 Total Web Solutions Australia - Australian Web Hosting and Domain Names