best thing about tough v8's (400+rwhp) with a strong shift kitted auto is the kick in the back when they go into gear and when shiftin gears, they can send you sideways too without too much trouble

would be very nice to have

many years ago my bro-in-law and i rebuilt his C4 auto in his ZA Lane with a genuine Ford shift kit he had found at a swap meet, we weren't sure about what was what so we chucked it all in and hey presto! full manual auto no stronger just annoying on the street!

A full manual auto will only upshift & downshift manually - No automatic upshifts or downshifts.They will downshift at any speeds - Not very good if you downshift to 1st gear in the wet at speed!. If you try to take off in 3rd, it is like trying to take off in 3rd or 4th gear in a manual car - It will burn out top gear clutch.

In the early Ford "C" series transmissions (C4, C6, FMX) or the GM Turbo-350,400,700, Powerglide + Chrysler Torqueflites - Transgo,B&M,Fairbanks etc all make full manual shift kits for these transmissions.

With a full manual shift kit,Some companies offer a "reverse pattern valvebody" option . Instead of the shifter going P R N D 3 2 1 it will go P R N 1 2 3 D When that valvebody option has been installed - Must remember to change the gearshift lettering on your T- Bar shifter!

The Holden boys with their VN - VE Commodores have got it easy! Their transmission, The Turbo 700(4L60 & 4L60E) was designed & built in the USA - You can buy any performance modification you want for that Auto.

Where as the BTR is designed & built in Australia - No companies like Transgo etc make performance mods for them, Because the BTR is not available in the USA

Falcons are not the only car in australia using the BTR - That SSangyong Musso 4WD thing also uses it - Adapted to a Mercedes Benz engine.

Thread Mining much???? This is a 3 yr old topic

Good to see a 3 year old thread was brought up for some technical insight...

In interests sake, the gears are selected by the solenoids being on/off and depending on what solenoids are on or off (its a pattern, not exactly sure off the top of my head) will determine what gear it will be in. There is a thread around at the moment which had something similar to this in it.

But it takes inputs from the TPS & the speedo transducer, Sent to the ECU to decide which solenoid to operate.

If the BTR was available in the USA, you would have had a full manual shift kit 15 years ago!

It costs Transgo etc millions of dollars & hundreds of hours in R&D to develop a shift kit when a new transmission comes out.

Whoever trys to design a shift kit will have to know exactly how the geartrain works & a full understanding of the valvebody hydraulic circuitary + be a wiz at electronics & be prepared to put the hours in for trial & error part.

Apparently it carnt be done according to DTM automatics in melb as they build full house BTR and asked them that question and they said it carnt be done.

It could be, but is very difficult. It sounds simple on paper but there would be a s**t of work involved to get it to operate correctly.