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 Post subject: ED-EF/EL CC Heater Box Differences
Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 1:28 pm 
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Howdy, I currently had an ED Fairmont heater box in my car and I am preparing for my dash conversion.

I wanted to find out if there are any major differences between them.



Heater Box: ED Fairmont
Climate Unit: EF Fairmont
Dash and Body Loom: NL Fairlane


Will I have any dramas or is their something that I need to change beforehand.

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 Post subject: Re: ED-EF/EL CC Heater Box Differences
Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 7:35 pm 
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KyleBardell wrote:
Howdy, I currently had an ED Fairmont heater box in my car and I am preparing for my dash conversion.

I wanted to find out if there are any major differences between them.



Heater Box: ED Fairmont
Climate Unit: EF Fairmont
Dash and Body Loom: NL Fairlane


Will I have any dramas or is their something that I need to change beforehand.

Cheers

Kyle


Hi Kyle

The ED heater box will work fine.

You will need to swap out the Fan Speed controller for the EF one.

You must use the EF Vac Solenoid setup with the EF Climate Control Unit. The Vac Sol must also be relocated to a similar position to it's factory location in the EF. I made up some brackets to located it properly.

I presume you will be using an EL ECU? You will need to run some wires to the ECU from the A/C wiring as the EL ECU will control some of the operation.

It won't just plug in and play. There are other wiring differences as well to do with the fan control. When I get some time I will look it all up again.

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 Post subject: Re: ED-EF/EL CC Heater Box Differences
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 11:34 am 
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KyleBardell wrote:
Howdy, I currently had an ED Fairmont heater box in my car and I am preparing for my dash conversion.

I wanted to find out if there are any major differences between them.



Heater Box: ED Fairmont
Climate Unit: EF Fairmont
Dash and Body Loom: NL Fairlane


Will I have any dramas or is their something that I need to change beforehand.

Cheers

Kyle


Hi Kyle

The ED heater box will work fine.

You will need to swap out the Fan Speed controller for the EF one.

You must use the EF Vac Solenoid setup with the EF Climate Control Unit. The Vac Sol must also be relocated to a similar position to it's factory location in the EF. I made up some brackets to located it properly.

I presume you will be using an EL ECU? You will need to run some wires to the ECU from the A/C wiring as the EL ECU will control some of the operation.

It won't just plug in and play. There are other wiring differences as well to do with the fan control. When I get some time I will look it all up again.

BenJ


Cheers for that BenJ, i remember hearing that their is a difference between EF/EL, something to do with vacuum lines or something, im just concerned because im using an EL/NL Dash loom with an EF Climate unit and an ED Heaterbox.

 

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 Post subject: Re: ED-EF/EL CC Heater Box Differences
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 12:18 pm 
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As long as you match the vacuum unit with the main climate control unit you'll be fine - EF to EF, EL to EL. You'll find the EF's have 2 different vacuum controls - a black one for EF I and a blue one for EF II. The EL's also have blue ones. And of course you climate control will have black buttons for EF and grey buttons for EL :)

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 Post subject: Re: ED-EF/EL CC Heater Box Differences
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 4:06 pm 
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As long as you match the vacuum unit with the main climate control unit you'll be fine - EF to EF, EL to EL. You'll find the EF's have 2 different vacuum controls - a black one for EF I and a blue one for EF II. The EL's also have blue ones. And of course you climate control will have black buttons for EF and grey buttons for EL :)

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Cheers RD, it is making me think whether I should change to the EL style buttons, does the change in VAC lines actually make a difference, and will I have to pull the heaterbox out for any of this, i wanna keep my A/C Gas

 

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 Post subject: Re: ED-EF/EL CC Heater Box Differences
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 4:15 pm 
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There is no need to remove the heater box. So yes you won't loose the A/C gas.

Just make sure you source the Climate Control Module and Vac Solenoid from the same model and series ie. EF11 and it should be fine.

EL Climate Modules are harder to find and they have grey buttons instead of black ones.

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 Post subject: Re: ED-EF/EL CC Heater Box Differences
Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 6:21 am 
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Here's one here, an EF control unit fitted with EL buttons.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Ford-Falcon-Fair ... 240%3A1318

 

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 Post subject: Re: ED-EF/EL CC Heater Box Differences
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:06 am 
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Thanks for all the reply's guys, I am thinking of getting hold of an EL Style climate module for the sake of having it look newer and fancy etc etc. From what you have informed me on, as long as I get the EL style vacuum pack and vacuum lines, and fan speed controller and relocate it to the position that is on an EL, all should be good?

PS: Does anyone know why Ford made it different in the EL?


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 Post subject: Re: ED-EF/EL CC Heater Box Differences
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:28 am 
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Ford also made a change from EF1 to EF2 in regards to the CC logic.

And, no, there is no known reason.

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 Post subject: Re: ED-EF/EL CC Heater Box Differences
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:54 am 
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I cant believe that the heaterbox's were the same, just changed a few items on the box itself. I might see what I can get hold of the quickest.


Cheers for that BenJ

 

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