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Age: 36 Posts: 721 Joined: 31st Dec 2005 Ride: EF V8 Futura, 180sx Location: Brisbane, Burpengary |
hey guys
i got a lpg system(Vialle) off a mate for $250 but ive hit a few problems 3 wires came out of a plug when removing from 97 el fairmont if you see the pick below you see the black wire still in it spot but the yellow purple and blue wire have come out and mixxed up from the sub computer. has anyone got a wiring loom for this system sitting around that they could take photo or scan and sent to me PLZ!!!! i could proberly do fax just need to call me before faxing it to my work fax so no one throws it in the bin or takes it. also anyone know where i can buy a solinoid for the converter? after i get it all wired up and new solinoid i take down the a lpg shop to get it checked over and tested and plated so it legal. That $95 fuel bill(week) is killing me especially that im a 2nd year apprentice mechanic. that basiclly 1/3rd my wage in fuel LOL but at the end of the day I LOVE MY FORD!!!!! 
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Not sure which wires you are referring to here but there are three wires that come out of the AMS box that are for calibration, if you look in the technical documents there is a tuning procedure that details the wiring colours, perhaps this will help.
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Age: 36 Posts: 721 Joined: 31st Dec 2005 Ride: EF V8 Futura, 180sx Location: Brisbane, Burpengary |
{USERNAME} wrote: Not sure which wires you are referring to here but there are three wires that come out of the AMS box that are for calibration, if you look in the technical documents there is a tuning procedure that details the wiring colours, perhaps this will help.
i can't find any tech notes on lpg except for some basic tickford lpg one and a lpg tweak and performance tech note
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i have several of these looms and none of them had that box in them....i dont think it is part of the lpg system.
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rememberd that i have factory lpg looms u may have aftermarket setup...
i think that that is the decel/start control module the wiring for that goes (left to right) pin 1 black/red (spade connector) pin 2 red/black (spade connector) pin 3 black wire (plug) pin 4 purple (plug) pin 5 not connected pin 6 yellow/white (plug) pin 7 blue/red (plug)
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Age: 36 Posts: 721 Joined: 31st Dec 2005 Ride: EF V8 Futura, 180sx Location: Brisbane, Burpengary |
{USERNAME} wrote: rememberd that i have factory lpg looms u may have aftermarket setup...
i think that that is the decel/start control module the wiring for that goes (left to right) pin 1 black/red (spade connector) pin 2 red/black (spade connector) pin 3 black wire (plug) pin 4 purple (plug) pin 5 not connected pin 6 yellow/white (plug) pin 7 blue/red (plug) WOOT mate if i could id hug the life out of ya LOL also you wouldn't know what pins the 4 wires that hook up to on the ecu connection? there a yellow, grey with black stripe, purple and brown. also you know what wire the white, lime green with white strip and grey wire connect to on the main loom to engine bay??? im guess tps and map sensor but i got no idea what ones they go to proberly more wire ill have problems with but ill ask ya guys tomorrow when i installing the complete loom and wire it up. YOUR A LEGEND GOGETTA
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If you removed the LPG stuff from an EL and are attempting to put it in an EF you should stop now as they are different. The LPG hardware maybe the same but the electronics and lpg wiring loom are different.
The small black enclosure (approx 100 * 70* 30mm) is part of the aftermarket Vialle loom. It alters / controls the spark when your on running LPG. On the factory Tickford system this unit is part of the ECU. I can supply you will the wiring guide on how to install the aftermarket vialle system in to an EF. But you need to get right loom and electrical hardware to suit an EF. I would also talk to a LPG place to see if you can get your install signed off as well before trying to fit the gear. I did the conversion last year using second hand epiupment and to be honest i would not do it again it's better to start with a new setup. |
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Age: 36 Posts: 721 Joined: 31st Dec 2005 Ride: EF V8 Futura, 180sx Location: Brisbane, Burpengary |
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well i talked to the guy at lpg installs and said that i could do the install but it must run on fuel and gas and not leks and all that stuff he gave me a sheet of what to do and rules and that. he would cert it only if it was good and all that i proberly won't do it again either im just take this under little experence in lpg installs cause ill fiddling with lpg soon at work so i just wanted to get heads up and i love learning in first hand about everything to do with cars. If i could get them wiring diagrams off ya bottlejack15 that would be great!!!! how do you want to send it? pm or fax or email? Cheers, Jason
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have u had a look at this thread for an EF diagram
http://www.fordmods.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=44 there are only minor differences between this and the EL setup...the main gas computer should work as well on the EF as it did on the EL
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Age: 36 Posts: 721 Joined: 31st Dec 2005 Ride: EF V8 Futura, 180sx Location: Brisbane, Burpengary |
{USERNAME} wrote: have u had a look at this thread for an EF diagram
http://www.fordmods.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=44 there are only minor differences between this and the EL setup...the main gas computer should work as well on the EF as it did on the EL the link only goes to LPG and Alternative Fuels not any thread
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That link is for the Factory tickford LPG set up which is slightly different to the aftermarket.
The info i have tells you which wires to splice into and where to do it. If you send me a PM with a fax number i will fax the info to you. Also include your email address and i will send a couple of pics so you can get the wiring in right order on the small black enclosure. cheers |
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{USERNAME} wrote: That link is for the Factory tickford LPG set up which is slightly different to the aftermarket.
The info i have tells you which wires to splice into and where to do it. If you send me a PM with a fax number i will fax the info to you. Also include your email address and i will send a couple of pics so you can get the wiring in right order on the small black enclosure. cheers can u post that up here?
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I only have it in paper format and I don't have a scanner so would rather fax it to who ever needs it.
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Hi there,
I know this thread is old, but I'm interested in the info. If I can get hold of it I'm offering to scan it and post here for benefit of everyone. Is the info still available? |
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