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 Post subject: Re: BenJ's EB T5 Ghia Wagon
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 12:02 am 
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 Post subject: Re: BenJ's EB T5 Ghia Wagon
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 12:29 am 
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cheap at twice the price!!!

I reckon I have spent about $3k but I have bought a lot of surplus stuff and tools along the way.

I will have to sell the extra parts when I have finished the job. Spare doors are handy only if you need them. I am going to swap the cargo area of the Classic as it is a real mess. Who knows? I may get a reasonable price for the workhorse when I sell it. Andrew wants it to be his but that is 10 years away and I don't plan on keeping it that long.

 

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 Post subject: Re: BenJ's EB T5 Ghia Wagon
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 9:50 am 
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The true cost of the cars is too complicated for me to work out.

If you buy the original car for a grand, and then you put all your good bits into it from a previous car (as I, BENJ, Mr Rick, and 100's of others do each year) then shouldn't you add the cost of the donor parts to the price tag? I mean... Really... You buy three parts cars for, let's say, $400 each and then sell parts off most of them so you actually make a grand or two on the purchasing and selling of these spare parts. Does that mean your car is now FREE?

That sort of argument is fair enough, and it's one I use regularly when trying to get away with buying more stuff like LSD's when the missus finds out.

Really, I don't think it really means your car is free when you make money selling other parts. The two financial streams should be separated. You should really be paying yourself to purchase the parts from yourself. We all know you are no good for credit to yourself, so you'd better pay yourself cash, and ask for a receipt in case of yourself supplying yourself a faulty part. I'd laugh at yourself if you had a disagreement with yourself and took yourself to court. You could then represent yourself, meaning yourself had a fool for a client.

Move on please.

I mean, I could go and build a house and use the money to buy car parts and say "the car is free because I used all this money someone just gave me for my time".

Admittedly, that is a little far fetched, but you should see my point... You can't really say you got something for free when you swapped it for something else. The "something else" has a value, just like my time building a house has a value.

Long ago my builds financial status was lost to the world. I bought a $400 Fairmont that made me $2000, but owes $300 on garage fees. The carpet and linings and some engine parts are in my car. But I wouldn't really be able to take $1700 OFF the cost of my build as I made that much on the car bought for parts.

Obviously if the car had cost me nothing once it is all worked out I would have no qualms selling it for nothing other than my time.

And that would mean my car is worth twenty five thousand.
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 Post subject: Re: BenJ's EB T5 Ghia Wagon
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 4:03 pm 
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I couldn't agree more.

If I put a price on my time then I would have spent a ridiculous amount on cars over the years.

Did I enjoy myself, learn something, improve something, achieve something, make new friends, spend time with my father and my children working together???

The answer is YES to all of these....

Was it worth it?
The answer is the experience has been priceless and I will continue to do it over and over again.

 

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 Post subject: Re: BenJ's EB T5 Ghia Wagon
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:17 pm 
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OK!

Had a bit of a set back with the bonnet this week.

I had a good start last Saturday. Mixed up some bog and layed it on. Sanded it back after it set. Was quite pleased with my progress.

Grabbed a new tin of bog, and mixed up a larger batch. This time though, I put in a bit less hardner, as the last batch went off too quick.

Long, sad, fustrating, aggravating story short, the bog didn't go off. I left it on for a couple of days to see if it would harden, but no such luck.

I started scraping it off yesterday, and to my dismay, the paint etc underneath the bogged areas has gone soft. AHHHHHHHH.

So after a lot of work, with scrapers and the electric sander, all the soft bog is now gone.

And the bonnet is looking a bit like a two year olds first go at finger painting.

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You can see here where the paint under the bog has lifted off. I will now need to refill these areas.

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All I will say is, that this is a lesson learned.

I hope to get further along on the weekend.

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 Post subject: Re: BenJ's EB T5 Ghia Wagon
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:20 pm 
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...and that is why I leave body work and painting to the pro's..

 

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 Post subject: Re: BenJ's EB T5 Ghia Wagon
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:29 pm 
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...and that is why I leave body work and painting to the pro's..


Don't knock a man who has a go DIY style, this website is full of such people and who continue to come up with great new ideas with their Fords. Chin up Ben, the hours you spend on the bonnet will give you more experience when it comes to tidying up the rest of the car for a new paint job. I did everything you have with my old beat up Escorts years ago and now it is easy work as is painting cars etc. Time and experience also means that you can and normally do save money for other projects.

 

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 Post subject: Re: BenJ's EB T5 Ghia Wagon
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:38 pm 
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...and that is why I leave body work and painting to the pro's..


Don't knock a man who has a go DIY style, this website is full of such people and who continue to come up with great new ideas with their Fords. Chin up Ben, the hours you spend on the bonnet will give you more experience when it comes to tidying up the rest of the car for a new paint job. I did everything you have with my old beat up Escorts years ago and now it is easy work as is painting cars etc. Time and experience also means that you can and normally do save money for other projects.


not having a go at Ben, I think whats he's done with his cars is accredit to him, just pointing out the fact that body work is not an easy task and me personally (after attempting many gos at this kind of thing myself )would rather leave it to the professionals.

 

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 Post subject: Re: BenJ's EB T5 Ghia Wagon
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 12:59 am 
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Never mind Ben, Better luck for you over the weekend.

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 Post subject: Re: BenJ's EB T5 Ghia Wagon
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 1:40 am 
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Sorry Benj.... sticking my head in again.

I noticed going by the colour of the filler in the last photo you have put to much hardener in the bog as you stated. You may want to chip it out (yeah i know more work, and a pain) but quite often bog with that much hardener will end up cracking eventually and stuffing the paint in that area, it can be suprising that it can stay fine for months then all of a sudden bang and ugly patch.
Ive only learnt this the hard way myself.... and it sucks.
But you may be lucky and get away with it, just thought id share.

Pink is the colour to aim for, not red or gray.... just like...... :wink:

Edit: you should be ok with the larger patch on the right in the photo, but the small one in the middle needs to go. And any other filler that colour.

Best of luck with it mate she is looking good.

 

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Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:29 am 
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Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:00 am 
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Bonnet will get there Ben, you doing a fine job.

As always, i tip my hat to you sir.

 

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 Post subject: Re: BenJ's EB T5 Ghia Wagon
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 12:31 pm 
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Bog over paint???


this rings alarm bells with me but it may be fine. I would have thought you need to be bare metal for bog aplications.
I too have had these issues and had to scrape and sand it all out. beware of out of date bog as well.

 

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 Post subject: Re: BenJ's EB T5 Ghia Wagon
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 12:36 pm 
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Rick, the directions on the Bog tin indicate that you should use it over primer, and not directly on bare metal. Ideally, the surface should be 'roughed up' with some sand paper to assist the bog to adhere correctly.

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Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:37 pm 
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have ya thought of getting it sodablasted and starting from scratch on an clean untouched surface

 

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