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BenJ, I remember when you had the EB sedan you put the power windows in.
You said it had the extra looms because of the cruise and ABS? My mate has an ED Gli with Cruise, ABS, the better roof lights, the sports cluster etc. How much of the wiring is there? I'm assuming the floor loom is all there, and the doorlooms need to be swapped to fairmont items? What about in regards to the acc relay in the dash fusebox? And will a fairmont dash loom mate up to the existing floor loom and engine bay loom? I'm assuming the enginebay loom is a fairmont one, has cruise, abs, low coolant sensor etc. |
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{USERNAME} wrote: BenJ, I remember when you had the EB sedan you put the power windows in. You said it had the extra looms because of the cruise and ABS? My mate has an ED Gli with Cruise, ABS, the better roof lights, the sports cluster etc. How much of the wiring is there? I'm assuming the floor loom is all there, and the doorlooms need to be swapped to fairmont items? What about in regards to the acc relay in the dash fusebox? And will a fairmont dash loom mate up to the existing floor loom and engine bay loom? I'm assuming the enginebay loom is a fairmont one, has cruise, abs, low coolant sensor etc. Replied via PM BenJ
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Well, today is BBM Day!!
Yep, I am having a half day off work, and will be home by 11am. My good buddy Snap is visiting again, and between us I hope to have the BBM installed and running on Petrol before dark. I am keen to drive it with the BBM and modded EL intake, and discover how this effects driveability. Tomorrow, Snap and I will be working on changing the location of the LPG gear to suit the BBM. This week I have given the BBM a clean up, removed and replaced the injectors and fuel rail, and checked over the BBM loom that I had previously modded. All seems to be in good nick. I also have to undo the extractors, to replace the metal heater pipe that runs from the water pump and around the back of the engine, as this is different to the log manifold item. I will be giving it a quick coat of paint before it goes in too. I am also replacing the heater hoses under the manifold. Will get pics up when it is all done. Cheers BenJ
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{USERNAME} wrote: Well, today is BBM Day!! Good to hear? So once completed the wagon shouldn't be running lean?
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{USERNAME} wrote: So once completed the wagon shouldn't be running lean? It isn't really running lean as such. It just seems to be hesitant/have flat spot between 1500rpm and 3000rpm while on petrol. On LPG it isn't there. There is a large difference in the torque curve at these low rpm figures, with the BBM being nice and fat. I am hoping that the BBM will give me a nice mid range throttle response boost. BenJ
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good to hear Mr Ben...
i too have some upcoming mods  ... im sure the wagon will go nicely with the BBM installed
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I have no PM...
I thought you kept the BBM on the EL Engine when you installed it. Shows how much attention I pay.... I'm sure you will let us know how it goes, I'm keen to find out how much difference there is. Are you running the Serpentine belt setup? |
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{USERNAME} wrote: I have no PM... I thought you kept the BBM on the EL Engine when you installed it. Shows how much attention I pay.... I'm sure you will let us know how it goes, I'm keen to find out how much difference there is. Are you running the Serpentine belt setup? Iam quite sure ben is running the serp belt, So how did it go?
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BBM is in.
And I have to say, what a difference. The mid range urge is huge, and the throttle responsiveness is just awesome. I am a very happy chappy. Some pics. Log Manifold removed.  BBM in and running.   The fun part was undoing the extractors so I could change the metal heater pipe over. I also used some new heater hoses under the manifold. For those wanting to do a BBM conversion here is a list of parts needed.
New intake manifold gasket EF/EL Fuel Rail and Injectors and Fuel Regulator with as much of the Fuel hose attached as you can get The metal heater pipe that goes from the back of the water pump, under the exhaust manifold, around the back of the engine and under the back of the BBM The metal heater pipe from the lower thermostat housing EF/EL heater pipes as they ARE different EL ECU EF/EL BBM Switching Solenoid and associated Vacuum pipes and fittings EF/EL intake filter box and pipes EF/EL throttle pedal and cable - the pedal has a different ratio than the EA-ED one Log manifold wiring harness modified to suit the BBM shape and EF/EL TPS and ICS The engine is now exactly like it was in my old Red EB Sedan. I have a few things up my sleve for the engine so will let you know as things happen. The LPG Convertor and Mixer have yet to find new homes as part of the BBM conversion. I hope to have a play with that tomorrow - well today now lol. The difference between this setup and the log is like chalk and cheese. A very worthwhile mod. Cheers BenJ
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Dude - As soon as I saw that top photo I thought "looks like the dodgy old BENJ forgot to order something..."
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing ... =226495435 Good news it all went in sweet and is doing what it was designed to... Now that you've fed and housed Snap a few times, I hope you realise that if he get's out his run or slips off his owners leash he'll be bowling right up your driveway looking for a half decent meal, a scratch behind the ears and a few box cars to operate on. Could be worse. |
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Got a bit sorted out today.
Snap, LP and Myself went to Pick N Payless to scavenge about for LPG bits and pieces, and scored quite nicely. Found an NA with an old IMPCO setup on it, that had a nice piece of flexible supply line. This proved to be exactly the right length to reach from the end of the existing copper tank supply line to the new location of the convertor on the right hand strut tower. I have rerouted the existing copper supply line from over the left hand strut tower, so it now goes behind the head and finishes just shy of the brake booster. We also grabbed a couple of EF rocker cover bolts that have the risers on them. This is to mount the bracket holding the mixer in position. Also acquired, were an EA intake pipe, assorted brass LPG fittings, lock off valves, and flow control valves. Nice little haul really. So after getting home, downing some great Pizza, saying farewell to Snap, I got around to mocking up the LPG gear and ducting. This was a proof of concept excersize. It should work well.     In the long run I will be using some more of the bling piping over the rocker cover, but in the mean time the rubber piping will do the job. I also have to route the heater hoses, but have that planned. Hey Dazzle, there appears to be plenty of room for the bypass. On another note check this out.   SWC has been busy again. Have a good one. Cheers BenJ
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looking good ben,, but isn't it risky having the mixer etc "ontop" of the extractors?
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{USERNAME} wrote: looking good ben,, but isn't it risky having the mixer etc "ontop" of the extractors? Not really. Snap has been running this setup for a long time with no issues. I will however look at fabricating a shield of some sort. BenJ
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{USERNAME} wrote: {USERNAME} wrote: looking good ben,, but isn't it risky having the mixer etc "ontop" of the extractors? Not really. Snap has been running this setup for a long time with no issues. I will however look at fabricating a shield of some sort. BenJ oh ok then I assumed as most extractors throw out some heat would be a hazzard but if it is tried and tested  all good. that front bar will look sick.
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{USERNAME} wrote: How much room above the mixer to the bonnet? Plenty. In reality, the bracket used is from the left hand side so the height is the same, but it sits a tiny bit further forward. Still has adequate clearance. BenJ
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