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 Post subject: Re: **BRY40L's el**
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:27 pm 
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the ones i was looking at today were 793f's
also there was about 10-15 odd cat d11T dozers, those were pretty bloody big dozers


The one in the pic you posted must be an old one....has window style rear wheel hubs.....lastest spec, and has been for some time, are the Paddle wheel style.....like the 793D (series 2) & F models.
I heard a rumour that CAT are not making the C175 engines anymore.....they are crap, and spin bearings at 4,000+ hrs......so they are doing bearing rolls on engines that make it to 4,000 hrs without blowing up...........just a rumour......and they are working on making the 3500 series engines into Common Rail versions......again....just a rumour.

 

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 Post subject: Re: **BRY40L's el**
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:30 pm 
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cjh wrote:
bry40l wrote:
the ones i was looking at today were 793f's
also there was about 10-15 odd cat d11T dozers, those were pretty bloody big dozers


The one in the pic you posted must be an old one....has window style rear wheel hubs.....lastest spec, and has been for some time, are the Paddle wheel style.....like the 793D (series 2) & F models.
I heard a rumour that CAT are not making the C175 engines anymore.....they are crap, and spin bearings at 4,000+ hrs......so they are doing bearing rolls on engines that make it to 4,000 hrs without blowing up...........just a rumour......and they are working on making the 3500 series engines into Common Rail versions......again....just a rumour.

i was just a bored security gaurd poking my nose where it shouldnt be lol, it was a brand spanker, there was about 6 of them and only this one was actually on wheels and ready to be started, weather its only tech or not i wouldnt know s**t from clay so to speak :lol:

 

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 Post subject: Re: **BRY40L's el**
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:35 pm 
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bry40l wrote:
cjh wrote:
bry40l wrote:
the ones i was looking at today were 793f's
also there was about 10-15 odd cat d11T dozers, those were pretty bloody big dozers


The one in the pic you posted must be an old one....has window style rear wheel hubs.....lastest spec, and has been for some time, are the Paddle wheel style.....like the 793D (series 2) & F models.
I heard a rumour that CAT are not making the C175 engines anymore.....they are crap, and spin bearings at 4,000+ hrs......so they are doing bearing rolls on engines that make it to 4,000 hrs without blowing up...........just a rumour......and they are working on making the 3500 series engines into Common Rail versions......again....just a rumour.

i was just a bored security gaurd poking my nose where it shouldnt be lol, it was a brand spanker, there was about 6 of them and only this one was actually on wheels and ready to be started, weather its only tech or not i wouldnt know s**t from clay so to speak :lol:


'T'is alright.....I work on them for a living......this is a rear brake from a 789C I was assembling and testing.

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 Post subject: Re: **BRY40L's el**
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:04 am 
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its amazing how unorganised they were up here at westrac, they had nuts bolts and all kinds of s**t scattered all over the site in boxes left out in the weather

 

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 Post subject: Re: **BRY40L's el**
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:47 pm 
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so im looking at turbo gear, thinking if i buy bits here and there over the next 2 years it seems pretty plausible,

so far ive found ebay coolers 600x300 for $300 give or take $50
a piping kit for $160(but its probably cheaper to buy those bits myself because bends and alloy pipe isnt that much? )

looking at wastegates goes over the top of my head :? , seems theres alot of cheapo's on here and not sure weather you can cheap out on this bit or weather it needs to be reliable? but they are upwards of $160
i was thinking a snort or one of turbo_wills manifold

not sure on turbo i was going to use just yet, not sure how far ill ever go with it
obviously theres more to look into in the future, but i can get the father inlaw to custom make me some go fast bits if need be, like the exhaust etc..
he does a good job at anything car related

 

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 Post subject: Re: **BRY40L's el**
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:20 pm 
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You know what to do and where to look :lol:
You are thinking the same thing i am. I just dont want to have to buy the same part twice. I just hate reading the price tags on reliability! :twisted:
My little list from what ive seen works and is reliable:
- 6boost manifold
- gt3582 int. w/g or gt4202r with a ~1 rear AR.
- turbosmart or 6boost 50mm gate.
- Plazmaman cooler (450X450)

Theres a few things that i highlighted to myself that must be maintained.
- Quick spool (2.5-3k rpm)
- Reliable
- As fuel efficient as possible off boost
- Big torque gains
- Must do massive skids

I have a feeling you probably want something similar. Its a headfu(k to work out hey! :D

 

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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:25 pm 
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the sam wrote:
You know what to do and where to look :lol:
You are thinking the same thing i am. I just dont want to have to buy the same part twice. I just hate reading the price tags on reliability! :twisted:
My little list from what ive seen works and is reliable:
- 6boost manifold
- gt3582 int. w/g or gt4202r with a ~1 rear AR.
- turbosmart or 6boost 50mm gate.
- Plazmaman cooler (450X450)

Theres a few things that i highlighted to myself that must be maintained.
- Quick spool (2.5-3k rpm)
- Reliable
- As fuel efficient as possible off boost
- Big torque gains
- Must do massive skids

I have a feeling you probably want something similar. Its a headfu(k to work out hey! :D

i think anything boosted will do the last thing on your list lol, decent branded waste gates have a massive gap in price between the cheaper ones thats why i thought is there a cheaper option worth using? i know the turbo is a massive reliability part, you dont want that to go bang, same with the gearbox and engine, but we all know how much power we can get away with before we need to build one, or just replace with another wrecker motor :D

 

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 Post subject: Re: **BRY40L's el**
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:32 pm 
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just do buy stuff in a backward order..
first get the manifold, then you know wether to go for a turbo with a t3 or t4 flange and wether your turbo is going to be an internal wastegate or external wastegate..
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:36 pm 
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TROYMAN wrote:
just do buy stuff in a backward order..
first get the manifold, then you know wether to go for a turbo with a t3 or t4 flange and wether your turbo is going to be an internal wastegate or external wastegate..

isnt externaly gated better though? i was just going to go external

 

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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:36 pm 
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Yeah exactly haha. Reliability is what has stopped me from splurging 800 big ones on a turbo and s**t from da chinaman! I know when it comes to turbos, there is a price difference for a reason. Ive been keeping an eye on ebay in the states for some bargains too. Genuine gt4202r (ball bearing) are just a smidge over $1500 delivered! Then the wastegates are pretty cheap too.
Remember the warping manifold issues some different boys on Boosted were seeing? I cant remember if the manifold was the same for all of them or different. Especially on that gezza_bangalongtime AU build. His manifold was out by a s**t tonne! Might just be high EGT's though.
Are you worried about cutting holes for piping? Engineering?
I was looking at 450X450 coolers to avoid hacking s**t apart too much. Havent looked enough at it.
You looking t56 or 6xT5?
We all know the bottom ends are indestructable :P Im just going to run my rebuilt NA motor with a massive decomp plate to get down to 8.5ish.
I reckon you could easily see 350rwkw with ACL rebuild kit and some lightened rods reliably.
And then theres the other 40,000,000,000 f**k parts you need to get the thing to work.... eh....

 

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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:38 pm 
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TROYMAN wrote:
just do buy stuff in a backward order..
first get the manifold, then you know wether to go for a turbo with a t3 or t4 flange and wether your turbo is going to be an internal wastegate or external wastegate..

Or buy a supercharger kit first... then buy turbo parts... :P :P

 

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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:43 pm 
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if i could go without cutting s**t up too much i would,
as for the gearboxes i rekin c4 in the future, id only run enough boost for the t5 to stay in the car and not s**t its guts at half track :D
havent looked too hard into c4's but you can buy them built for 1500 on ebay and they will handle close to 500 hp!! and performance parts are quite cheap for them like shift kits etc..
just need the adapter s**t and a tail shaft to suit, i like the idea of auto better than manual as id like to be F**k fast on the quarter lol. but the manual would be better for circuit or drifting obviously

 

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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 5:07 pm 
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ba turbo kit

thought this was priced well for anyone who has a ba xt and wants to turbo charge

 

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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 5:08 pm 
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Now all you need is the XT :lol:

 

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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 5:13 pm 
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the sam wrote:
Now all you need is the XT :lol:

yeah, the turbos go for 1200 though so its well worth it for a standard bolt up, still need a few things but still good value, if i was going to turbo a newer falcon id do a xt, no one would suspect an xt to be boosted just because it doesnt have xr6 turbo pinned all over the panels :D

 

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