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 Post subject: Re: Fordman351's DOHC EL Fairmont: Turbo Acquired Wooooo!
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 1:58 am 
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haha havent been there for a while.i fifo to cloudbreak mine (FMG) for work tho and on weeks off im usually in meekatharra teaching people how to use fel, fork lifts exy's etc. so not in perth often but when i am i work on my car :)

 

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 Post subject: Re: Fordman351's DOHC EL Fairmont: Turbo Acquired Wooooo!
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 9:21 am 
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I cant remember if I read this in the thread somewhere so I'll just ask now.

Would this conversion be simpler if you were to opt for manual instead of auto?

 

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 Post subject: Re: Fordman351's DOHC EL Fairmont: Turbo Acquired Wooooo!
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 12:08 pm 
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haha havent been there for a while.i fifo to cloudbreak mine (FMG) for work tho and on weeks off im usually in meekatharra teaching people how to use fel, fork lifts exy's etc. so not in perth often but when i am i work on my car :)


Sounds like an interesting line of work you do. My uncle works at the Murrin Murrin mine (spelling?) in Meekatharra. I've always wondered what FIFO work would be like...

MADXF, the conversion would be mad ALOT simpler if you had the apropriate transmission, the only reason it stuffed me around was because i was trying to use the old EL 93LE, which has different internal electrics to a BA 93LE. Otherwise if that had all gone in in the first place, i wouldn't have had that hold-up. But, if you want to cut back on electronics and to simplify things further (plus the fun factor) i'd go with a T56. I only went with the 93LE as it was cheaper for me to do at the time.
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 Post subject: Re: Fordman351's DOHC EL Fairmont: Turbo Acquired Wooooo!
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 12:53 pm 
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yeah meekatharra is nice... i was sure the murrin murrin mine had shut down though? i know st barbara has shutdown and windamurra at mount magnet :S FIFO is ok good money, s**t hours :(
Wouldnt recomend it if you have a family. i miss mine terribly at work its not a break from them its hell!

 

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 Post subject: Re: Fordman351's DOHC EL Fairmont: Turbo Acquired Wooooo!
Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 9:07 pm 
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Well, it has been a few months since i have seen him haha :oops: , so it quite possibly has.

Well, i went to my transmission tech today, he discovered that i could have retained my original auto and just swapped over the internal loom and solenoids, this devastates me quite a bit lol. Oh well, you get that i suppose :x . I'll keep this auto for a while and see how it goes, otherwise i might just opt for a manual setup later down the line as i really don't think the auto will be happy to hold any sort of power.

EDIT: Ooooo, i had the opportunity of being able to pilot a six speed manual BF Tornado ute tonight, and all i can say is.......well, nothing i'm speechless, absolutely gobsmacked! The power, not so obvious under 2500rpm, but after that watch out! All without any fuss, just very linear, smooth and predicatable. I'm completely won over.
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 Post subject: Re: Fordman351's DOHC EL Fairmont: Turbo Acquired Wooooo!
Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 4:34 pm 
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Phwoar! Sounds like a good deal to me haha. Yeah, if you happen to get rid of it, let us know i might take some time off work and go for a road trip.


haha i've completely forgot do you still want those parts

 

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 Post subject: Re: Fordman351's DOHC EL Fairmont: Turbo Acquired Wooooo!
Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 1:25 pm 
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s**t! I forgot about it too haha. Nah that's okay man, plans have changed, i'm going to use a 600x300 cooler and get a mate to knock together some piping for me. Thanks for the offer, i'm sure you could get a few bucks for those parts.
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 Post subject: Re: Fordman351's DOHC EL Fairmont: Turbo Acquired Wooooo!
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 7:51 am 
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Well, i went to my transmission tech today, he discovered that i could have retained my original auto and just swapped over the internal loom and solenoids
Tell me more please, I was just about to swap out the valve body and try again, AFAIK the solenoids are the same type i.e normally open, but are powered differently as below. is the guy talking from experience?

E series have common ground on all solenoids except S5.
B series have common 12V on all except S7 - (Lock up TC)

This is taken care of by different drives from the ECU.

I rewired mine internally to be the same as E series but the BA box starts in second and then selects first at around 30KPH so I had assumed that the valve body is different. The BA manual suggests S4 is to blame. Is there a difference in the solenoids?

 

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 Post subject: Re: Fordman351's DOHC EL Fairmont: Turbo Acquired Wooooo!
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:45 pm 
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Urgh i really don't know :( i wish i could understand the workings of these gearboxes, it would make life so much easier. Unfortunately the way i learn is by word of mouth and from trial and error haha. If i find anything out, i'll be sure to let you know. I'm going to embark on a journey to see if i can make an EL 93LE compatible with a BA ECU, i'm starting from the ground (or possibly lower than ground level :D ) and working my way up.
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 Post subject: Re: Fordman351's DOHC EL Fairmont: Finally Dyno'd
Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 1:34 am 
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Had my car dyno'd this evening, lets just say i'm well chuffed :D

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 Post subject: Re: Fordman351's DOHC EL Fairmont: Finally Dyno'd
Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 3:25 am 
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158rwkw with an auto... not a bad effort at all..
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 Post subject: Re: Fordman351's DOHC EL Fairmont: Finally Dyno'd
Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 9:48 am 
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Well it's better than the 161rwhp i pulled with the old engine haha.
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 Post subject: Re: Fordman351's DOHC EL Fairmont: Finally Dyno'd
Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 10:07 am 
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are you going to put a 6 speed manual on it one day?

 

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 Post subject: Re: Fordman351's DOHC EL Fairmont: Finally Dyno'd
Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 10:13 am 
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f**k me, thats alot of power just by fitting a stock BA motor, well done !!....... has it had a custom tune, or just stock tune to make it run in your car?
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 Post subject: Re: Fordman351's DOHC EL Fairmont: Finally Dyno'd
Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 12:47 am 
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mitchell g wrote:
are you going to put a 6 speed manual on it one day?

Maybe, if one came along cheap enough and if the funds permitted, i'd seriously consider it.

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f**k me, thats alot of power just by fitting a stock BA motor, well done !!....... has it had a custom tune, or just stock tune to make it run in your car?

Thanks matey! I'm pretty stoked with the outcome. I was originally hoping for and would have been happy with 180-190rwhp. The only chip tickle it has had was just to get it running, as the car wasn't drivable at the time it was in at BPT they weren't able to do a custom tune. So with just a single muffler 2.5' exhaust system, a "custom high flow" cat :oops: , and a K&N air filter it's now churning the numbers. Now if i could get 300rwhp with a huffer, i'd be over the moon :D
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