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 Post subject: Re: Fordman351's DOHC Turbo EL Fairmont: Electrical Problems =(
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:22 pm 
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Well, i finally finished off everything i can do on the Fairmont today. Installed new transmission and power steering lines and coolers, changed engine oil, filled with coolant, ATF and PSF. But, there are still problems.

I thought once the car was started that the throttle may become active again, not so. It took a few goes to eventually get the engine to start (in a way), but when it does start, it hardly idles and belches out thick black smoke. But wheather that's something to do with the XR6T MAP sensor and the ECM not being programmed for it, i'm not sure. I'm still stumped as to why the throttle has given up the ghost. Does the ECM earth through the stand it is rivited to? I've painted the stand and where it bolts down to the shock absorber bolts on the strut tower, isn't bolted down...

But anyway, here's a video of the first fire: {DESCRIPTION}
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 Post subject: Re: Fordman351's DOHC Turbo EL Fairmont: Still Got Problems =(
Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 8:10 am 
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Hey dude, It will not run correctly with a 2bar map if it hasnt been flashed for it, It will go to shutdown mode where the throttle will not function.
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 Post subject: Re: Fordman351's DOHC Turbo EL Fairmont: Still Got Problems =(
Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 11:05 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Fordman351's DOHC Turbo EL Fairmont: Still Got Problems =(
Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 11:18 am 
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Hey dude, It will not run correctly with a 2bar map if it hasnt been flashed for it, It will go to shutdown mode where the throttle will not function.


Just put the factory MAP one and dont let it boost man.
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 Post subject: Re: Fordman351's DOHC Turbo EL Fairmont: Still Got Problems =(
Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 4:24 pm 
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Hey dude, It will not run correctly with a 2bar map if it hasnt been flashed for it, It will go to shutdown mode where the throttle will not function.


Just put the factory MAP one and dont let it boost man.

Damn, for real!? I wish i'd known that before i'd cut and shut the wiring for the MAP sensor, if i put the old MAP sensor on, it's still not going to work properly :x
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 Post subject: Re: Fordman351's DOHC Turbo EL Fairmont: Still Got Problems =(
Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 4:45 pm 
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sounds like its coming staight out of the dump pipe

 

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 Post subject: Re: Fordman351's DOHC Turbo EL Fairmont: Still Got Problems =(
Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 5:26 pm 
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Hey dude, It will not run correctly with a 2bar map if it hasnt been flashed for it, It will go to shutdown mode where the throttle will not function.


Just put the factory MAP one and dont let it boost man.

Damn, for real!? I wish i'd known that before i'd cut and shut the wiring for the MAP sensor, if i put the old MAP sensor on, it's still not going to work properly :x


Have you got the throttle pedal connected? Cylinder head temp sensor connected/working?
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 Post subject: Re: Fordman351's DOHC Turbo EL Fairmont: Still Got Problems =(
Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 5:39 pm 
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sounds like its coming staight out of the dump pipe

That it is :twisted:
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Hey dude, It will not run correctly with a 2bar map if it hasnt been flashed for it, It will go to shutdown mode where the throttle will not function.


Just put the factory MAP one and dont let it boost man.

Damn, for real!? I wish i'd known that before i'd cut and shut the wiring for the MAP sensor, if i put the old MAP sensor on, it's still not going to work properly :x


Have you got the throttle pedal connected? Cylinder head temp sensor connected/working?

Yep, both connected and working. I havn't even toched the accelerator pedal and all i've done to the temp sender is unplug it from the loom :?
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 Post subject: Re: Fordman351's DOHC Turbo EL Fairmont: Still Got Problems =(
Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 5:54 pm 
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i would say it will need to be flashed.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Fordman351's DOHC Turbo EL Fairmont: Still Got Problems =(
Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 6:35 pm 
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Yeah that's it, i just though it would have at least idled. Man late model engine control systems are picky.
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 Post subject: Re: Fordman351's DOHC Turbo EL Fairmont: Still Got Problems =(
Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 7:59 pm 
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Let us know how you go once it's been "flashed".

That thing sounds tough!

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 Post subject: Re: Fordman351's DOHC Turbo EL Fairmont: Still Got Problems =(
Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 11:49 pm 
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Well, you were right Bollocks it was the MAP sensor making everything play up, BUT i installed the N/A MAP sensor and tinned the tips of the wires on the old plug and stuck them into the new plug (so it's virtually back to normal), the throttle only works closed and at any pedal position, fully open. But when the engine is running, the throttle ceases to operate and the engine still runs rought as guts. All i can put it down to now, is that it's getting too much fuel.

Burn it i say lol :twisted:
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 Post subject: Re: Fordman351's DOHC Turbo EL Fairmont: Still Got Problems =(
Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 11:57 pm 
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Burn it i say lol :twisted:


Ya can't do that man! I'm sure you will work it out soon. Sure the regulator is doing it's job properly?

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 Post subject: Re: Fordman351's DOHC Turbo EL Fairmont: Still Got Problems =(
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 12:37 am 
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Burn it i say lol :twisted:


I'll give you a car to burn and take this one away for you? Deal?

Keep at it bud, it'll be worth it in the end :)

 

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 Post subject: Re: Fordman351's DOHC Turbo EL Fairmont: Still Got Problems =(
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:08 am 
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{USERNAME} wrote:
Well, you were right Bollocks it was the MAP sensor making everything play up, BUT i installed the N/A MAP sensor and tinned the tips of the wires on the old plug and stuck them into the new plug (so it's virtually back to normal), the throttle only works closed and at any pedal position, fully open. But when the engine is running, the throttle ceases to operate and the engine still runs rought as guts. All i can put it down to now, is that it's getting too much fuel.

Burn it i say lol :twisted:

It's sounds like she's still in failsafe mode dude. Just go over all your wiring & if you can get a scan tool plugged into it.
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